The Jewnited States
Superstar
Watched this movie recently and loved every second. Hell my mom who usually hates gory movies couldn't stop watching once she got invested in the story and characters
Apocolypto is one of the rawest f'n movies ever made
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Kill Dat Noize
Banned
i say this as a jew... i really don't give a shyt.
i highly, highly doubt mel gibson would feel a certain way about me just because i was jewish. i can't claim to know the man personally but he always struck me as a man of moral character. you could even see it in his films.
whatever he said, it really don't phase me. words are just words. should i assume everyone on the coli hates white people because they so freely use the word cac? should i take offense to that too?
and yes it is a shame what happened to his career cause he was one of the most talented people in hollywood. a GOAT actor and on his way to being a GOAT director.
drugxglory
Street Struck
Them nikkaz was so convincing
BossmanChad
Pro
People say this movie is highly innacurate. Still cool though
when i first watched the movie, it was back when there was no instant netflix and being the moviehead I was decided to try it out for a month, my pops had also just got an 80 or 90 something inch DLP TV (i'm too high to remember the exact size, but its big as fukk) and I had a PS3 as a bluray player. Apocalypto was one of the first movies I got for it, I specifically looked for visually striking films because it was my first time really experiencing blurays on a really nice TV, the fountain was another one I ordered for example (hated the movie but the visuals were nice). I usually like a nice cannabis buzz for a movie but I usually don't like to get in that "I'm too high" stage, but I was there for this one, and saying I almost had a panic attack was no hyperbole, because I was so high I was thinking about how in the past, this ACTUALLY HAPPENED to someone. It's known they did human sacrifices in this manner. So somewhere in the past of the human race, some human actually experienced and went through what was being presented in this movie, and obviously the visuals were absolutely incredible, I literally damn near had a full blown panic attack, after that scene was over I had to pause the movie and get a glass of cold water.
Very intense movie and well shot too...from the beginning no matter what happens, you know its a depressing ending though because the cacs are coming
dabestkeptsecret
Superstar
Well not for jaguar paw, he saw throught that shyt immediaetly
He gave them ships the
And kept it moving with his girl and seed. While those other natives ran up on some
Prob expecting a handout, but was prob met with ac
And a bullet for being too savage
I saw a lot of people say that Mel put that in there at the end as if they were being "saved" by the incoming cacs, but I didn't get that from that at all, I took it as he survived all that crazy shyt and more crazy shyt was just around the corner. Life back in those times was brutal and short.
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
right, that's the way I took it as well.
a bigger, badder dude was about muscle them off the block.
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
Yeah, in that other Apocalypto thread a while back this was discussed, by I always saw that scene as affirmation that it's a "kill or be killed" world because there's always a bigger predator around the corner. I don't see how anyone could interpret that scene as white saviors knowing full well the history of what those incoming white people did to the natives.
I forget who it was, but someone was arguing with me vehemently that it was white savior shyt in that thread
it's a great film but the above sentiments is why the movie is considered a propaganda piece by many cause it made the Mayans look like a bunch of blood thirsty slave trading and raping scumbags who took advantage of weaker tribes so they deserved what they had coming to them from the Spanish. There is no evidence that the Mayans conducted large scale sacrifices and slavery like what was depicted in the movie and they didn't raid smaller tribes or villagers for human sacrifices, most of them came from elites and warriors they captured from other warring Mayan cities. Also by the time the Spanish arrived Mayan society dramatically changed and most of them abandoned the cities to live in villages and small towns.
Kill Dat Noize
Banned
right but that wouldn't have made for an entertaining movie. the villains needed to be more clearly defined. you shouldn't look to art and entertainient for historical accuracy.
it doesn't even really matter much that they are mayans, just that they were a savage people.
it's kinda hard to accuse mel gibson of trying to depict brown people in a negative light seeing as the hero of the movie and his tribe in which we are meant to sympathize with are also brown people.
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Kill Dat Noize
Banned
Btw this movie has a fukkin 64 percent on rotten tomatoes????? Wtf???
how does one watch this movie and NOT walk away from it wanting to reccomend it???
what is there not to like? could it be the graphic imagery? Beyond that isn't this pretty much an expertly crafted film?
how does one watch this movie and NOT walk away from it wanting to reccomend it???
what is there not to like? could it be the graphic imagery? Beyond that isn't this pretty much an expertly crafted film?
humans with more power have been taking advantage of people of lesser from the beginning of our species and its not something unique to mayans, why would people make a leap and just assume the entirety of the mayan civilization were violent and rapey?
i'm a wikipedia scholar
"Human sacrifice among the Maya is evident from at least the Classic period (c. AD 250-900) right through to the final stages of the Spanish conquest in the 17th century. Human sacrifice is depicted in Classic Maya art, is mentioned in Classic period hieroglyphic texts and has been verified archaeologically by analysis of skeletal remains from the Classic and Postclassic (c. AD 900-1524) periods. Additionally, human sacrifice is described in a number of late Maya and early Spanish colonial texts, including the Madrid Codex, the K'iche' epic Popol Vuh, the K'iche' Título de Totonicapán, the K'iche' language Rabinal Achi, the Annals of the Kaqchikels, the Yucatec Songs of Dzitbalche andDiego de Landa's Relación de las cosas de Yucatán.
A number of methods were employed by the Maya, the most common being decapitation and heart extraction. Additional forms of sacrifice included ritually shooting the victim with arrows, hurling sacrifices into a deep sinkhole, entombing alive to accompany a noble burial, tying the sacrifice into a ball for a ritual reenactment of the Mesoamerican ballgame and disembowelment."
is this not true????? and my google searching finds that they did have slavery (by the way almost every ancient civilization had slavery, so its not like its some fukking black eye upon their civilization)