Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak says he's left Facebook over data collection

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AN FRANCISCO — Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak told USA TODAY he's leaving Facebook out of growing concern for the carelessness with which Facebook and other Internet companies treat the private information of users.

"Users provide every detail of their life to Facebook and ... Facebook makes a lot of advertising money off this," he said in an email to USA TODAY. "The profits are all based on the user’s info, but the users get none of the profits back."

Wozniak said he'd rather pay for Facebook than have his personal information exploited for advertising. And he heaped praise on Apple for respecting people's privacy.

"Apple makes its money off of good products, not off of you," Wozniak said. "As they say, with Facebook, you are the product."

His surprise announcement marks the latest development in back-and-forth corporate sniping by tech leaders as Facebook copes with a scandal over the potential misuse of user data by political targeting firm Cambridge Analytica. In an update last week, Facebook estimated as many as 87 million people, mostly in the United States, may have had their data improperly shared.

Apple CEO Tim Cook started the unusual public criticism in late March. During a joint interview with Recode and MSNBC, he was asked what he would do about the crisis if he were in Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's position.

"I wouldn't be in the situation," said Cook.

He added that Apple reviews apps to confirm that each one meets the privacy standards his company has required for users.

"We don't subscribe to the view that you have to let everybody in that wants to, or if you don't, you don't believe in free speech," said Cook. "We don't believe that."

Cook also questioned the practice of social media platforms monetizing the personal data of their users.


Zuckerberg hit back in a subsequent interview with Vox, calling Cook's comments "extremely glib."

"If you want to build a service which is not just serving rich people, then you need to have something that people can afford," said Zuckerberg.”

Championing his own company's business model, Zuckerberg also said: "At Facebook, we are squarely in the camp of the companies that work hard to charge you less and provide a free service that everyone can use. I don’t think at all that that means that we don’t care about people."

Zuckerberg is scheduled to testify before congressional committees in Washington this week about the Cambridge Analytica episode and Facebook's response.

Starting Monday, the 87 million users whose data might have been shared with Cambridge Analytica will get a message in their news feeds. Most of the affected users — more than 70 million — are in the U.S. In addition, all 2.2 billion Facebook users will get a link so they can review what apps they use and what information is shared with those apps.

The Cambridge Analytica affair hasn't dented user engagement, according to Jefferies analyst Brent Thill.

"We analyzed Facebook's traffic over the course of March and believe that recent headlines around Facebook's data policies have not meaningfully impacted engagement on the platform," Thill wrote in a research note.

According to a survey of 750 U.S. Internet users, Facebook and Instagram are still tops, Thill found, with 93% using Facebook and about 50% using Instagram.

Wozniak is one of the prominent users who have called it quits. On Sunday, he deactivated his Facebook account after posting the following message: "I am in the process of leaving Facebook. It's brought me more negatives than positives. Apple has more secure ways to share things about yourself. I can still deal with old school email and text messages."

In an email to USA TODAY, Wozniak said he was taken aback by the extent of Facebook's data collection when he changed and deleted some of his information before deactivating his account.

"I was surprised to see how many categories for ads and how many advertisers I had to get rid of, one at a time. I did not feel that this is what people want done to them," he said. "Ads and spam are bad things these days and there are no controls over them. Or transparency."

Still, breaking up with Facebook isn't easy. Wozniak chose not to delete his Facebook account. He didn't mind bidding farewell to his 5,000 Facebook friends, many of whom he says he doesn't know. But he didn't want to give up his "stevewoz" screen name.

"I don’t want someone else grabbing it, even another Steve Wozniak," he said.

Wozniak's latest comments aren't the first time he's thrown shade at Internet giants. Speaking at an international business conference in Montreal last year, Wozniak said he tries to "avoid Google and Facebook."

He cited the companies' use of widescale data-collecting operations that are used to help sharpen ad targeting of the social media platform's users, online magazine The Drum reported.

Zuckerberg for President :mjlol:
 

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Is he still on Instagram though? :sas2:

People leaving Facebook is the new wave. Any word on how many people have deactivated/deleted their account since the data breach went public?

I ended my account in February, before I heard all of this. Just tired of it after 10+ years. Tired of all the depressing news & politics, "friends" that I didn't talk to, and dumb status updates. The only thing I miss is having access to Messenger because I have a few friends that prefer that over texting, and honestly, so do I, but :manny:
 

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Given the bullshyt that springs up and the fact that some old folks don't even have social media anything it's not just FB hoarding data and letting unscrupulous entities pick at the bones.
 

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I worked at one of the big social media companies. I could only last 5 months before I quit. I subsequently killed all my social media accounts shortly afterwards. It's the atmosphere and the People did it in for me.

I couldn't stand the pompous White guys, the fat purple haired girls that thought they knew everything, the weird emails and newletters than nearly bragged about wasting the public's time (one newsletter bragged about this particular social media app was available on every conceivable device all the time 24 hours a day).

I didn't even work with these people. I worked in the Accounting/ finance department, which like most finance departments was mostly Chinese Women with Nigerians sprinkled in here and there. I just saw these other people walking around the hallways and I just could feel their arrogance. Then I saw how much money this company made, and I could believe the near monopoly-level of cash that was coming in.

All the free cafeterias were staffed by hood folks ( I even met a childhood friend from the hood there), and the amount of disrespect that these Indians, Pompous white guys and Fat purple haired girls would give the Cafeteria workers was out of control. Personally, I thought we were all one team, and I treated everyone with respect, especially since I was from the same neighborhoods. However, I saw these disrespectful Indians down-talk the cafeteria workers, throw food around with no regard of how much trouble and mess they made for the workers. I saw one of the Fat Purple hairs drop her entire plate on the ground, point at a Janitor, then point at the food and then just walk off with her nose in the air without even attempting to help. I saw multiple pompous White CACs and Fat Purple CACs get all uppity at one of the free burger and shake joints because their orders were slightly wrong. There also a few lilghtskinned Drake-types that would also participate in the disrespect. Always gotta be a few of charmin soft lightskin dudes somewhere kissing up to white people.

We all had to be plugged into the internal version of the Social Media app, and it was mandatory that we had to have it open to communicate with different workers. There was this idiot from one "art" departments that just keep writing 100s of paragraph-long posts stating that his boyfriend said this, his boyfriend said that, and that his boyfriend told him that he should take a break because the job was hurting his health, and I had to see all this dumb shyt in the feed.

In one of the coding dens near my deskspace (there were no offices), I noticed that there were more than a handful of dudes that were in womens clothes all-day. This is what the California progressive left call their paradise: Hood folks that get disrespected and shytted on by Indians and Fat Purlple CACs, dudes that go to work everyday dressed as women, and firms that rake-in near monolopy levels of net profit by selling data. fukk all that shyt.
 

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Is he still on Instagram though? :sas2:

People leaving Facebook is the new wave. Any word on how many people have deactivated/deleted their account since the data breach went public?

I ended my account in February, before I heard all of this. Just tired of it after 10+ years. Tired of all the depressing news & politics, "friends" that I didn't talk to, and dumb status updates. The only thing I miss is having access to Messenger because I have a few friends that prefer that over texting, and honestly, so do I, but :manny:

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My messenger still works just like normal even with my FB deactivated

I deactivated it about 18 mos ago before all this news
 

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My messenger still works just like normal even with my FB deactivated

I deactivated it about 18 mos ago before all this news
Yeah it worked when my account was deactivated, but I took it a step further and deleted my account.
 

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Facebook Is About To Give 'Privacy-Protected Data' To Election Researchers

On Monday, Facebook announced a new initiative that aims to help the company better understand how it influences elections and democracy at large. Thing is, it will involve Facebook handing over user data to independent researchers - but in a good way this time, promise.
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In their announcement blog, Facebook's vice president of communications and public policy, Elliot Schrage, and Director of Research David Ginsberg wrote that an independent research commission will be able to give "privacy-protected data" to select researchers "when appropriate".
"The goal is both to get the ideas of leading academics on how to address these issues as well as to hold us accountable for making sure we protect the integrity of these elections on Facebook," Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook's CEO and co-founder, wrote in a post on his page.
It's worth noting that the individual at the centre of the Cambridge Analytica scandal, Dr Aleksandr Kogan, used his position as a University of Cambridge professor to develop the app he would later repurpose to collect data on some 87 million Facebook users for Cambridge Analytica's political influence campaigns. That being said, Facebook does detail a few ways in which it will attempt to protect user data through the new initiative.
Proposals requesting data will be reviewed both by a university Institutional Review Board (IRB), Facebook's privacy and research review teams, and independent privacy experts chosen by the commission, according to the company. "These reviews will help ensure that Facebook acts in accordance with its legal and ethical obligations to the people who use our service, as well as the academic and ethical integrity of the research process," Schrage and Ginsberg state in the post.
Facebook notes that it is developing its own team to work alongside the independent commission and researchers when it comes to developing the datasets used in the research. It states that these datasets will remain on the company's servers and will be regularly audited. The commission will only publish results that are aggregated and anonymous, Facebook said.
"Fundamental to this entire effort is ensuring that people's information is secure and kept private," Schrage and Ginsberg wrote. "Facebook and our funding partners recognise the threat presented by the recent misuse of Facebook data, including by an academic associated with Cambridge Analytica. At the same time, we believe strongly that the public interest is best served when independent researchers have access to information. And we believe that we can achieve this goal while ensuring that privacy is preserved and information kept secure."
It's unclear what type of user data is up for grabs as part of the initiative. We have reached out to Facebook for more information on what user data can be shared with researchers but had not heard back at time of writing.
What is clear is that Facebook is trying to prove to the public that it really does care about how its products might shape the world we live in, not just as a platform to build communities but as a platform to psychologically manipulate them. The announcement also comes the same week Zuckerberg is scheduled to testify before the Senate Judiciary and Commerce committees and the House Energy and Commerce Committee. It will certainly bode him well to have an arsenal of good intentions at his disposal for when the grilling begins.

Facebook Is About To Give 'Privacy-Protected Data' To Election Researchers
 

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*did not know you could dooooo that*
You thought you were locked in with an account for life? I mean, they've got whatever info you gave them for life, but all you have to do is go into your settings and tell it delete. I think it takes 2 weeks or so to go into effect. I downloaded all of my data and that was that.
 

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I fukking hate FB but it's the most efficient way I can talk to my parents who are overseas.

what about imo or whatsapp? i know facebook owns whatsapp but the privacy concerns aren't the same. terrorists use it for a reason.
 
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