Apple Music claims they want to fix the royality rates to 9.1. cents per 100 plays

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yea but they can also take that one hit and sell out shows and TV appearances. Sell features, etc. to make a hell of a lot more money.
Desiigner has only recorded like 2 songs in his whole life and he's probably a millionaire by now.
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How many Desiigners you have walking around out there?

How many dudes (no offense to my brethren) like @Cole Cash you have walking around out there?
 

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:francis:

How many Desiigners you have walking around out there?

How many dudes (no offense to my brethren) like @Cole Cash you have walking around out there?
not my fault everyone wants to become an entertainer and have no fall back plan.

the opportunities to become a professional entertainer are slim. the opportunities to become a professional plumber are way better.
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I'm just saying, this ain't the fault of apple or spotify that ppl would rather throw all their eggs in one basket then realize that they ain't making any money like that because they were duped by big name rappers with rented houses, leased cars and borrowed jewellery.
 

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and that is another thing ppl need to reailize.

streaming is just on demand radio....more or less.

Radio pays out to..where is the outrage at their low percentages?

Not to mention these include access to International markets meaning while it takes a lot of streams to get paid, you are talking about potentially getting streams from people all over the world which adds up very fast.

I love when posters who are notorious to say Pass the Mustard when a new album comes out are getting mad that rappers don't get paid a lot on stream :snoop:
 

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not my fault everyone wants to become an entertainer and have no fall back plan.

the opportunities to become a professional entertainer are slim. the opportunities to become a professional plumber are way better.
:manny:

I'm just saying, this ain't the fault of apple or spotify that ppl would rather throw all their eggs in one basket then realize that they ain't making any money like that because they were duped by big name rappers with rented houses, leased cars and borrowed jewellery.
Yes the labels are raking the artists over the coal, as are apple and spotify. Just making a real life observation. You have a better chance succeeding going to community college than trying to entertain.
 

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Yes the labels are raking the artists over the coal, as are apple and spotify. Just making a real life observation. You have a better chance succeeding going to community college than trying to entertain.
Apple and Spotify are retail outlets though

They aren't doing anything different than any other retail outlet. So if ppl are gonna be mad at them then be mad at all of them. Don't just pick and choose because you personally have something against either one of them.

If I sell a song on iTunes they take 30% if I sell it at Walmart they gonna take their 30%(it's actually more) but you get the idea.

The problem is that most musicians(not just rappers. See a song sell for .99 and think that they should get it all.
 

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Apple and Spotify are retail outlets though

They aren't doing anything different than any other retail outlet. So if ppl are gonna be mad at them then be mad at all of them. Don't just pick and choose because you personally have something against either one of them.

If I sell a song on iTunes they take 30% if I sell it at Walmart they gonna take their 30%(it's actually more) but you get the idea.

The problem is that most musicians(not just rappers. See a song sell for .99 and think that they should get it all.
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I'm not arguing with you breh :dahell: you keep trying to push this shyt on me for?
 

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Apple and Spotify are retail outlets though

They aren't doing anything different than any other retail outlet. So if ppl are gonna be mad at them then be mad at all of them. Don't just pick and choose because you personally have something against either one of them.

If I sell a song on iTunes they take 30% if I sell it at Walmart they gonna take their 30%(it's actually more) but you get the idea.

The problem is that most musicians(not just rappers. See a song sell for .99 and think that they should get it all.
The last sentence is entirely false. The internet is home to hyperbole. Literally no one has made that argument. Between the label and apple artists get nothing. That is their grievance.
 

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The last sentence is entirely false. The internet is home to hyperbole. Literally no one has made that argument. Between the label and apple artists get nothing. That is their grievance.
First off it is NOT entirely false, it is however slightly exaggerated to prove my point.

A lot of low level(local) type rappers really believe that they should be getting it all and don't really understand the business like that.
or they think that they should be getting the lions share of the take while everyone else gets nothing.

regardless, the point remains, retail will ALWAYS get their percentages. The real grievance is with the labels, and the consumption by the fans.
 

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The real,problem is that no one is making good enough music to make ppl want to stream it enough to make it worthwhile.

Outside of a bunch of pop songs, no one is getting those streams.
Its 2016

Good music isnt nessecary popular music

Remember 5 companies own 90% of the radio market

Ppl listen what theyre told to for the most part
 

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Its 2016

Good music isnt nessecary popular music

Remember 5 companies own 90% of the radio market

Ppl listen what theyre told to for the most part
it was like that in 1996 and 1986 and 1966,etc.

that's not just a now thing. the problem now is that there is just sooo many more artists out their flooding the market.
 
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