Are Arabian Arabs part African ?

[yung Herbie Hancock]

I don't know if it's just me but there are quite a lot of Saudi kids here at my uni who look like they have black ancestors. I know that some Arabs are black because of the Arab slave trade, but it seems like indigenous Arabians have African genes. I did a bit of research on DNA tests and it happens to be that Arabs from the Arabian peninsula(Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the Unted Arab Emirates), along with Jews, are the only people outside of Africa who carry the African E1b1b gene. The Eb1b gene is basically the genetic marker of Tuaregs/Berbers and is found all over Africa except in Benin,Ghana and southern Nigeria (these areas are heavily E1b1a). Does this mean that the Arabs from the Arabian peninsula are basically part African? Here's an example of how a few of the Saudis at my school look like: http://tinyurl.com/kc9eg8n
I used Wikipedia for the DNA stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_Sub-Saharan_Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_Near_East

 

[Sensei]

Yes ,Yemenites and North Africans also have significant gene-flow of Sub Saharan African.Other Middle Easterners have black in them as well too.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

Yes ,Yemenites and North Africans also have significant gene-flow of Sub Saharan African.Other Middle Easterners have black in them as well too.

I wouldn't go as far as other middle easterners. It seems like it's only those in Arabia and North Africa that have African genes. The other middle easterners are genetically closer to Turks and Iranians. Iranians are basically just white people (Indo Europeans). But yea Yemeni are probably the closest to black(right after Moroccans). Here are a group of Yemeni kids
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[Sensei]

I wouldn't go as far as other middle easterners. It seems like it's only those in Arabia and North Africa that have African genes. The other middle easterners are genetically closer to Turks and Iranians. Iranians are basically just white people (Indo Europeans). But yea Yemeni are probably the closest to black(right after Moroccans). Here are a group of Yemeni kids
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Iran is greater Middle East, and are considered Persian rather than Arabic. Iraqis,Syrians,Jordanites and others have black in them as well too, it maybe be lower than North Africa and Yemen but they have it.And Moroccans have less black than Yemenis retain in my opinion..

 

[Raptor]

All Arabs have negligible SSA admixture(2.5-5 percent) as a result of the conquest of North African lands who were inhabited by Africans, the East Africa slave trades(in which 30 million Africans were brought to the arab peninsula over 1500 years). Not to mention the annexation of Yemen, southern half of inhabitable Saudi Arabia, parts of Egypt by the proto ethiopians/habeshas called the axumites, who were a very influential empire( controlled the Red Sea for a millenia, traded with Greece, Rome and India) a thousand years ago, which I guess accounts for the "mulatto" appearances of Northern and Central ethiopians who are the descendents of the axumites.

It also depends on the area. South Egyptians, Yemenites, North Sudanese would have considerably more SSA admixture than the average arab in the arab peninsula as those lands were previously inhabitted by the cushytics/kush people who were later arabised. In the case if Yemen, who many look habesha, they were previously Axumites who were also arabised.
As for the Jews, they probably would have negligible SSA blood as their were various Yemenite Jewish kingdoms who had significant relationships with the proto ethiopians the axumites who had controlled the area for hundreds of years. These Yemenite jews were probably responsible for the axumites conversion to Judaism which became the kingdoms official religion.

I wouldn't go as far as other middle easterners. It seems like it's only those in Arabia and North Africa that have African genes. The other middle easterners are genetically closer to Turks and Iranians. Iranians are basically just white people (Indo Europeans). But yea Yemeni are probably the closest to black(right after Moroccans). Here are a group of Yemeni kids
:

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

All Arabs have negligible SSA admixture(2.5-5 percent) as a result of the conquest of North African lands who were inhabited by Africans, the East Africa slave trades(in which 30 million Africans were brought to the arab peninsula over 1500 years). Not to mention the annexation of Yemen, southern half of inhabitable Saudi Arabia, parts of Egypt by the proto ethiopians/habeshas called the axumites, who were a very influential empire( controlled the Red Sea for a millenia, traded with Greece, Rome and India) a thousand years ago, which I guess accounts for the "mulatto" appearances of Northern and Central ethiopians who are the descendents of the axumites.

It also depends on the area. South Egyptians, Yemenites, North Sudanese would have considerably more SSA admixture than the average arab in the arab peninsula as those lands were previously inhabitted by the cushytics/kush people who were later arabised. In the case if Yemen, who many look habesha, they were previously Axumites who were also arabised.
As for the Jews, they probably would have negligible SSA blood as their were various Yemenite Jewish kingdoms who had significant relationships with the proto ethiopians the axumites who had controlled the area for hundreds of years. These Yemenite jews were probably responsible for the axumites conversion to Judaism which became the kingdoms official religion.

Yea the Ethiopian bit is pretty obvious yet you will have some people say "Ethiopians aren't mixed at all". No one is saying that ALL Ethiopians are mixed, but the amhara people (the ruling class of Ethiopia atm) in Northern Ethiopia are clearly mixed because of their historical ties to the Axum kingdom.

 

[Chris.B]

Tell an Arab he is a part abeed and come here and tell us his response...assuming you make it out alive

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I wouldn't go as far as other middle easterners. It seems like it's only those in Arabia and North Africa that have African genes. The other middle easterners are genetically closer to Turks and Iranians. Iranians are basically just white people (Indo Europeans). But yea Yemeni are probably the closest to black(right after Moroccans). Here are a group of Yemeni kids
:

Why the heck would Yemen be genetically closer than "Sub Saharan Africans" than Moroccans who are IN Africa???? More importantly Moroccans have more African admixture compared to any middle eastern group.

Also it seems like some of you characters ae trying to separate North Africa from the rest of Africa.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Yea the Ethiopian bit is pretty obvious yet you will have some people say "Ethiopians aren't mixed at all". No one is saying that ALL Ethiopians are mixed, but the amhara people (the ruling class of Ethiopia atm) in Northern Ethiopia are clearly mixed because of their historical ties to the Axum kingdom.

Most of the admixture in Northern Ethiopians are pre-historic and not recent...

 

[5star]

Why the heck would Yemen be genetically closer than "Sub Saharan Africans" than Moroccans who are IN Africa???? More importantly Moroccans have more African admixture compared to any middle eastern group.

Also it seems like some of you characters ae trying to separate North Africa from the rest of Africa.

Always envious of black people , you can't change the facts

 

[humble Hermit]

The day black people stop depending on Western scientific methods that steadily get debunked, the better. At best,things may be close to the truth but truth is a living experience. Cant put all my stock in dna testing when I hear western scientist using it for personal interest and how many people has actually researched into creating there own regional sampled/blood analysis? Not too many because its pricey, so we for the most part rely on their methods. These the same people few hundred years ago argued that blacks came from whites and even worse, primates. Those scientist in those times were just as prominate as the ones now. White people of European descent has only been around for 6k years.
































But to answer the question, yes

 

[Blackking]

yes.

Obviously.