Are Black Christians Grateful for Slavery/Colonization?

[DPresidential]

Fellas, have to agree with Marc Spector on the point of Western Christianity not having any significant amount or % of actual converts among the Africans who were enslaved in the USA or in the Americas as a whole.

For the sake of the discussion, let's focus on the ones eventually taken to the US during the slave trade.

^I’ve been lurking this topic since yesterday and was waiting for someone to move the topic in the direction that @Get These Nets is taking it.

That is the question I would like to be answered or dive deeper into

To be clear, I, nor do I think anyone else, argued that any African ripped from their Homeland during the Atlantic slave trade were already Christians.

Be that as it may, that fact does not mean the descendants of those slaves would be of the opinion that because of their Christianity, they are grateful that slavery occurred.

If we get reparations and are happy and do great things with our reparations, would we be happy that slavery occurred?! No, right?

From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the only thing that Christians, black, white, or green, believe that was necessary for the salvation of their souls was their God sacrificing his son Jesus Christ.

Unless there is some scripture that I'm not aware of that states God also said, "oh yea, and them black folks can only be saved if I put them through slavery."

I'm pretty confident most black Christians don't read that at Bible study so...

 

[EdJo]

I need to see sources because everything I've read says otherwise.
And even if true, its different when its an internal decision vs enslavement.

I just found it. The original quote is in portuguese, but i posted the translation too.

The island of priests, used to be called island of cazanga by the locals. After the portuguese started to use the island to force slaves and other blacks to adopt Christianity , they changed the name of the island.

In portuguese:
"Ou ainda a enorme ilha da Cazanga, popularmente conhecida por “Ilha dos Padres”, onde, em tempos de má-memória, milhares de escravos foram convertidos à força ao Cristianismo na igreja que lá existe.

A Cazanga é apenas um do testemunhos vivos de um passado tenebroso deste sistema insular, no qual se baseou uma parte importante do tráfico negreiro da região de Luanda. Tanto a “ilha dos Padres” como a ilha do Desterro, também na baía do Mussulo, foram usadas como prisão e centro de tortura de escravos."

In English:

"Or the enormous island of Cazanga, popularly known as the "Island of the Priests", where, in times of bad memory, thousands of slaves were forcibly converted to Christianity in the church that exists there.

Cazanga is just one of the living testimonies of a dark past of this island system, on which an important part of the slave trade of the Luanda region was based. Both the "island of the Priests" and the island of Desterro, also in the bay of Mussulo, were used as a prison and torture center for slaves."

Ilha do Mussulo - Rede Angola - Notícias independentes sobre Angola

 

[get these nets]

To be clear, I, nor do I think anyone else, argued that any African ripped from their Homeland during the Atlantic slave trade were already Christians.

Be that as it may, that fact does not mean the descendants of those slaves would be of the opinion that because of their Christianity, they are grateful that slavery occurred.

If we get reparations and are happy and do great things with our reparations, would we be happy that slavery occurred?! No, right?

From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, the only thing that Christians, black, white, or green, believe that was necessary for the salvation of their souls was their God sacrificing his son Jesus Christ.

Unless there is some scripture that I'm not aware of that states God also said, "oh yea, and them black folks can only be saved if I put them through slavery."

I'm pretty confident most black Christians don't reach that at Bible study so...

Ok, fair enough about no one making the case for any % of Christians among the enslaved Africans.

The rest of your post address the OP's comments, not mine or bruistoff's.

What was the alleged Catholic conversion of Kongo introduced to the thread to prove?
The existence of Christianity in West Africa pre transatlantic slave trade? NOT.
The existence of Christianity in West Africa pre colonization? NOT. Portuguese had the jump start over other European nations when it came to the slave trade and colonization, technically they were doing both simultaneously .Before the slave trade was abolished across the Atlantic and before the "Scramble for Africa"

 

[kevm3]

what's pathetic more than anything is dudes blaming a religion they don't follow as the cause of their problems. If you don't believe, then don't follow and keep it pushing.

 

[get these nets]

what's pathetic more than anything is dudes blaming a religion they don't follow as the cause of their problems. If you don't believe, then don't follow and keep it pushing.

That's not what I've read in this thread. We have been, and are a community, what I've read are opinions that the way our community adopted and practiced Christianity has hindered the community as a whole. So it wouldn't be as simple as don't follow and your concerns about the subject are gone.

Now, I do have a long ignore list, so if people have written it as you stated, then that's a legit gripe of yours.

I'm not playing devil's advocate here either, but I decided to follow the thread and want to see the points made from all viewpoints.