Are Indians considered black?
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CinnaSlim
Queen of Swords
They came to America from Asia cross the Bering land bridge, where they lived for thousands of years and evolved into the people they are today. As sea levels rose they migrated into America.
First Americans Lived on Bering Land Bridge for Thousands of Years
CoochieMane
#Wholesomegang
and I'm sure that study was done by cacs, same people that said ancient Egyptian pharaohs share more DNA with British men than anyone else.
That old dude looks darker than a lot of AA.
While I should care, and educate .....I generally just let people like this rot in their own ignorance/opinions.
To be clear I don't deem them as ignorant because they don't agree with meI deem them ignorant because people who say stuff like that are typically people who know the least about Africa anyway. My favorite thing is to take them down basic high school history time line
Do you know about [insert period here] and what happened around that point?
1. ice age
2. Mesopotamia
3. greece
4. rome
5. dark ages
6. crusades
8. Renaissance
7. "age of discovery"
9. colonial period
(I skip the kinda stuff below cause most people don't remember it ...I.E. they don't make many movies, tv shows, games, and other cultural references about them)
bronce age collapse / Reconquista / enlightenment / etc.
Then I ask a simple question...
What were African people doing at each of the times we just discussed?
If they can't answer each question off the dome...I disregard almost anything they have to say about Africa.
My position:
When I say...
"American" - I'm referring to anyone who is a citizen of the United States of America
If you meet certain requirements, you may become a U.S. citizen either at birth or after birth.
To become a citizen at birth, you must:
To become a citizen after birth, you must:
- Have been born in the United States or certain territories or outlying possessions of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; OR
- had a parent or parents who were citizens at the time of your birth (if you were born abroad) and meet other requirements
- Apply for “derived” or “acquired” citizenship through parents
For more information, see USCIS Policy Manual Citizenship and Naturalization Guidance.
When I say...
"Black people" - I'm referring to(phenotype) "tropically adapted" humans(homo sapiens) irrespective of where they come from
I.E. longer limbs to expel heat, melinated skin to absorb sun light, curly to wavy hair, etc. etc.
When I say...
"African people"("Africans") - I'm referring specifically to humans(at any point in time) that derive from those who inhabited(or who would eventually go on to inhabit) the sahale-Saharan-greatLakes area during it's last aqualithic /green phase ...and generally to all humans who derive from those on the continent of Africa(or who would eventually go on to inhabit Africa) during it's last aqualithic /green phase.
Prior to ejection from the sahale-Sahara:
The occupation of the Sahara was one that shared certain material culture commonalities throughout such as barbed harpoons for fishing and wavy lined pottery for storage.
These are the people who scattered across the continent in various waves when the desert dried up
(North, south, east, and west)
These are the ones who absorbed / intermarried other cultures on the continent and comprise everyone who left the continent during the trans Atlantic slave trade.
I.E. "Africans" is an umbrella term that denote people of a particular lineage (biological and historical). Under that lineage are ethnic groups such as the...
1. Wolof ....who are citizens of Senegal
2. Baka ....who are citizens of Cameroon
3. Kikuyu ....who are citizens of Kenya
4. Fur ....who are citizens of Sudan
5. "Afro Jamaicans" ....who are citizens of Jamaica
6. Xhosa ....who are citizens of South Africa
7. "Afro Brazilians" ....who are citizens of Brazil
8. Kabye ....who are citizens of Togo
9. "African Americans" ....who are citizens of the United States of America
That said I don't get mad at them because I know U.S. public schools deliberately don't teach this stuff and their parents more than likely went to the same public schools, so they probably don't know either.
Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.
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Camile.Bidan
Banned
Yeah,
That is true too, but the origins of the Bering straight people are actually in European and Western Asia. It's hard for a lot of people to accept, but it appears to be the reality of the situation.
Europeans are a mix of Paleo Europeans, Aryans from central asian and the predecessor population of Native Americans. But the Aryans seem to also have been part Native American as well, which makes Europeans even more connected to Native Americans.
Genetic link found between Modern Europeans and Native Americans | Daily Mail Online
"Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
Europeans drawn from three ancient 'tribes' - BBC News
Americas’ natives have European roots
GetInTheTruck
Member
As opposed to DNA tests done by who else?
Do you really think every person involved in these studies is white?
Pit Bull
GATOR
The Bering land bridge shyt is an unproven myth, a theory not a fact. Plus the Mongol native Americans that supposedly came from Siberia were not the only race of people to inhabit the America's.
Europeans and the Mongol native Americans do look a lot alike when they get old but I'm starting to think they are pushing this common ancestor narrative so they can claim that America belonged to them and it was OK to massacre the Mongol native Americans.
Europeans and the Mongol native Americans do look a lot alike when they get old but I'm starting to think they are pushing this common ancestor narrative so they can claim that America belonged to them and it was OK to massacre the Mongol native Americans.
First off: I have no real dog in this fight. Also I'm not in any field of anthropology.
That said, speaking from my background I have to say that I get really annoyed with the argument in bold above. (Not because it's not true, because it is) But from the stand point of sorting and clustering data(of any kind) it's besides the point or to make it clearer it's arguing the wrong point. It also shows how annoyingly long a shadow people like Carlton c00ns and friends cast.
If I sort/cluster people using gold teeth as a delineator...
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Would it be correct to say "yes they all have gold teeth but they don't all have the same mother & father"? Absolutely that would be correct. But from a dry "matter a fact" stance it's beside the point. There is no such thing as a correct cluster outside of the question of "does it satisfy the delineator(s) used in the sorting process".
If it meets those requirements the next line of questions would be "what will this cluster be used for?"(I already see what it is) The thing is whenever I see the issue of "blacks in Asia" that last part is always skipped in the automatic assumption of the return/propagation of biological race based theory.
That's like telling these people...
"You people aren't genetically related so you can not advocate as a group"
As far as I'm concerned as long as they don't advocate the busted ideology of biological races and assorted nonsense terms like Caucasoid, negroid, mongoloid etc. they can sort and galvanize around what ever delineator that successfully brings them together for a common cause.
It's the knee jerk reaction to the "shadow of c00ns"(which is basically what it is) that annoys me most.
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DNA doesn't make you "black" or anything else
NoirDynosaur
Yurrrrrrrrrr
Interesting. Different haplogroups result into different type of ethnicities. Ancestral Northern Indians are related to Aryan Caucasoids (Slavics, Central Asians, Semitic Jews). They carry the R1a haplogroup. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Haplogroups_europe.png
Ancestral Southern Indians are of Australoid descent. They carry the L1a1 haplogroup
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