Are most of us honest when a player outperforms our low expectations of them?

[TKOK]

I was wrong on Steph Curry. I thought he'd be good as a guy you can rely on to get you 3's, but I never thought he'd be arguably the best pg and a mvp winner. props to him for putting in that work.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

We've been through this shyt too many times for you to play this game.

Nope. Ironically we've been through THIS before. THIS meaning, we both know that you love to post walls of text and dig up old quotes, so if you're not doing that its because you have nothing to support your claims. You're full of shyt.

He definitely is the #1 option, yet the Rockets aren't a contender.

#2 seed in the West and one of the final 3 teams left playing in May = not a contender

The sheer amount of nonsense you have to type just to avoid admitting you were wrong. You are the subject of this thread PERSONIFIED.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Nope. Ironically we've been through THIS before. THIS meaning, we both know that you love to post walls of text and dig up old quotes, so if you're not doing that its because you have nothing to support your claims. You're full of shyt.

So which is it? Either we've been through this before and I've upped quotes of you saying dumb shyt when it comes to Harden or I haven't?

#2 seed in the West and one of the final 3 teams left playing in May = not a contender .

Are the Hawks a contender?

The sheer amount of nonsense you have to type just to avoid admitting you were wrong. You are the subject of this thread PERSONIFIED.

Wrong about what exactly? I already said that I didn't expect him to put up a performance like he has against the Warriors. Yet are we going to ignore what happened against the Clippers? Or the last two postseasons?

 

[Piff Huxtable]

back on we were clowning Chandler Parsons hard for winning SEC Player of the year with his 11 points average

i gave him no chance at making it in the league

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

So which is it? Either we've been through this before and I've upped quotes of you saying dumb shyt when it comes to Harden or I haven't?



Are the Hawks a contender?

Wrong about what exactly? I already said that I didn't expect him to put up a performance like he has against the Warriors. Yet are we going to ignore what happened against the Clippers? Or the last two postseasons?

-No, we've been through you making claims about some wild shyt I allegedly said in the past and yet inexplicably being unable to produce anything when I ask wtf you're referring to. You're Mr. Bookmark, if you don't have shyt ready to go then don't try to make up some bullshyt about something I said because you're essentially calling your own bluff as you have here again

-Hawks were one of the final four That said, they got swept in the east by a banged up Cavs squad. Rockets are still alive in the West, against the "historically good" Warriors. If you're gonna claim they're not contenders in service of your foolish pride (again, the entire focus of the thread) then keep on digging.

-You said his game would flat out not work in the postseason. It's working now. And what's your response? Tryna go BACK and instead focus on old shyt that is no longer relevant. That's WORSE than moving goalposts.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

-No, we've been through you making claims about some wild shyt I allegedly said in the past and yet inexplicably being unable to produce anything when I ask wtf you're referring to. You're Mr. Bookmark, if you don't have shyt ready to go then don't try to make up some bullshyt about something I said because you're essentially calling your own bluff as you have here again .

How typical of you to act oblivious to what you've said. Are you forgetting all the shyt you've shyt about Harden over the last few seasons? Are you forgetting all the quotes I've upped of yours that were PROVEN wrong about Harden's game?

Bad memory pathological liar

-Hawks got swept in the east. Rockets are still alive in the West. If you're gonna claim they're not contenders in service of your foolish pride (again, the entire focus of the thread) then keep on digging..

The Rockets aren't contenders just like the Hawks aren't. It doesn't mean a cotdamn thing if they're still alive.

-You said his game would flat out not work in the postseason. It's working now. And what's your response? Tryna go BACK and instead focus on old shyt that is no longer relevant. That's WORSE than moving goalposts.

I said his game wouldn't work in the postseason until he developed a midrange jumper and stopped relying on getting calls. What happened last series? What happened in the postseason before that? What about in the postseason before that one?

Again, I was right.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

How typical of you to act oblivious to what you've said. Are you forgetting all the shyt you've shyt about Harden over the last few seasons? Are you forgetting all the quotes I've upped of yours that were PROVEN wrong about Harden's game?

Bad memory pathological liar

You just keep writing this instead of actually posting anything because it doesn't exist, you damn fraud. You love quotes, where are they?

You got nothing because all I ever wrote was moderate to conservative praise. Things like he's a legitimate scoring threat that can take over w/o relying on calls. He's a very underrated distributor. There's no reason he shouldnt still be successful in the playoffs. He could be a legit #1 option on a similar plane to Westbrook.

You found all of that outlandish and argued with me to no end. Now you want to still claim I was saying some wild shyt, but you won't quote any of it because I've been vindicated and you'll only look more wrong than you already do.

That's the long and short of it. I'm not gonna argue in circles with you so you can keep doing the exact thing this thread was created to call attention to.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You just keep writing this instead of actually posting anything because it doesn't exist, you damn fraud. You love quotes, where are they?

I don't even know why this needs explaining again.

This is the crux of it (for the last two-three seasons) - after many said his fundamentally flawed game (relying too much on calls, lack of midrange game etc etc) would be exposed in the postseason, and until he fixed these problems he wouldn't be able to take the next step - basically meaning he wasn't as good as you made him out to be. You argued against all these points for BOTH seasons. Over and over and over. You even took a lot of posts out of context as well.

Yall love this lie so much.

Stats prove its not close to being true and you just admitted witnessing Harden kill your own squad yesterday without getting to the line much. You have no evidence of this dumb shyt.

You were wrong when you said he would be exposed in Houston and you continue to be wrong. How long you gonna wait for this mysterious exposure, fukkboy?

Because you continue to downplay him, say he's a 1 trick pony, claim he got exposed, will get exposed or whatever other garbage you come up with. A contradictory point prediction doesnt change that.

Enter the postseason -

He shot 38% overall and 30% on jumpshots over the last two postseasons, and had a 5 assist to 4 turnover ratio. I don't even need to tell you how badly he played - the whole board knows how shytty he played and the reasons why. Clearly you either didn't realize how fundamentally flawed his game was or you didn't wanna acknowledge it.

You had threads like this discussing his play -

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-does-james-harden-shoot-so-poorly-in-the-playoffs.208603/

And the most damning evidence of all -

I got nothin. He's been worse than his haters couldve ever dreamed.

I mean, he CANT continue to be this bad, right? He HAS to play better and LaMarcus has to have a bad game, right? The damn law of averages demands it

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This is where you've lied to push your Harden agenda -

May 5 2012 -

I been telling you Harden is OKC's 2nd best player forever now and w/ performances like tonight.

Harden's younger and better

Then a month later in the Finals -

Westbrook - 27 ppg on 43% shooting, 6.6 assists and 2.2 turnovers
Harden - 12.4 ppg on 37% shooting, 3.6 assists and 2.4 turnovers

And not only were you wrong about Harden being better than Wesbrook, but you actually lied about it afterwards -

-Never said Harden was better than Russell. You're wrong, stupid and a liar...

Continuing on -

Man, look at all the damn weapons on the Thunder. I know you love to play this "but OKC needs Westbrook's scoring!" shyt but its simply not true.

Another Harden/anti-Westbrook agenda driven point from you - which is not only funny that you called a team with Sefolosha, Martin, Ibaka, Fisher and Perkins with "all these offensive weapons" - but we saw exactly how that team looked without Westbrook's scoring in the postseason (when Westbrook was injured) -

2012/2013 playoffs -

Yea that sure looks like a team that didn't need Westbrook's scoring.

And we'll end with -

Harden doesnt flop.

I've never seen a post that starts out with such a blatant lie

This is shameful breh

That post basically sums up your campaign on Harden. Lies, lies and more lies. So many lies that you forgot to keep track of them all, to now where you act oblivious when you're called out for bullshyt like that.

 

[MostReal]

he was "supposed to be garbage" based on what exactly ?

Well first by chance. It's very hard for teams to find a great Qb. You just had the NFLs iron man as your starter. A sure first ballot HOFer. Your chances of getting another great qb near that level is pretty slim.
Second, the guy looked lame and really wasn't that great of a prospect. Him dropping in the draft was a blow to his ego and made him give maximum effort to prove the league wrong. On top of that, he went to a team that was already good with a ready made offense.

Plus he looked lame with that wack mustache, anyone walking around like that is supposed to be garbage

 

[mvp_status]

@ "Harden doesn't flop"

jesus

 

[JLova]

It's hard taking that L

 

[JLova]

he was "supposed to be garbage" based on what exactly ?

This is a first because I WANTED this dude on my own team coming out of College. I didn't think he'd be the player he is today but it was more of a "I'd rather him than the other guy" as I didn't really watch him too much in College.

I never heard that he'd be crap, though.

 

[MostReal]

This is a first because I WANTED this dude on my own team coming out of College. I didn't think he'd be the player he is today but it was more of a "I'd rather him than the other guy" as I didn't really watch him too much in College.

I never heard that he'd be crap, though.

anyone who looks like this does not suppose to be respected, let alone good. Dude looks like a joke & that is what he was suppose to be. He beat the law of averages

 

[JLova]

anyone who looks like this does not suppose to be respected, let alone good. Dude looks like a joke & that is what he was suppose to be. He beat the law of averages

Looks like a QB to me.