Are people smarter now than ever before?

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this. you know how many times, especially at work, some clown would pretend to be an expert on some shyt their just read own wikipedia or some blog.



those guys solved the relative easier problems. the things that are left to be invented or problems to be solved are much more complex. not taking anything from those earlier guys though.

Easy is relative though. You have whole teams of people doing things to create inventions now. For example as smart as elon musk is, he didn't build the model S, nor did he invent it, nor could he probably build one himself.

The average person back in the renaissance or enlightenment age had to do and learn way more on their own. I'd say the difference now, is we need to be intelligent about ten times as many things. But the breadth of our intelligence doesn't need to be wide. Hence why I think people of old needed and are smarter.

Now if we are talking about intelligence capability, it's probably been static for the last 2-3000 years. Intelligence comes with societal stability and caloric intake.
 

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Easy is relative though. You have whole teams of people doing things to create inventions now. For example as smart as elon musk is, he didn't build the model S, nor did he invent it, nor could he probably build one himself.

The average person back in the renaissance or enlightenment age had to do and learn way more on their own. I'd say the difference now, is we need to be intelligent about ten times as many things. But the breadth of our intelligence doesn't need to be wide. Hence why I think people of old needed and are smarter.

Now if we are talking about intelligence capability, it's probably been static for the last 2-3000 years. Intelligence comes with societal stability and caloric intake.

same thing for back then. most inventions didn't come out of thin air they were improvements on older simpler inventions by other people and relied on things others came up with. imagine if the hindu-arabic number system didn't make it to europe probably non of the mathematical and scientific breakthroughs from then would of taken place.

And today the breadth of our intelligence needs to be wider since most of what we need to solve are cross disciplinary. Take for instance space travel or mining asteroids. pulling that off would require improvements in rocket/aerospace tech which depends on math and physics, material science, robotics, medicine and even mental health care to understand and treat the effect of space on our bodies and mind and the list can go on and on. of course you'll have experts in each field but to put those things together they'll have to understand what each other are doing.
 
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No.

Most things created now are really just innovated from something previous, more over it's usually created by a group of people. Nothing nowadays is really original.

People prior to the 1900's were smart as shyt...it really wasn't a thing for someone back in the day to speak four languages, play four instruments, paint crazy portraits, ferment their own alcohol, travel the seas in a boat they built...Nah people aren't smarter today...

Don't let technology full you into thinking someone is actually smart.
:what: If innovations are built on something previous that means people are obviously smarter now. Also to answer OP, I think the population as a whole are collectively smarter than before
 

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In a manner of speaking, yes. More people are literate and have completed basic education than at any other point in history. We have good scientific explanations for most phenomena we encounter on earth. No longer do we need to attribute thunder and lightning to an angry lightning god, or a tidal wave to Poseidon's trident.

At the elite level of intelligence I'm not so sure at all. Consider for instance how irrelevant modern philosophy is. People still study Plato because dude was on point and almost all of the problems he identified with society in ancient Athens are still here today all around the world, and it's been 2400 years! I don't see anybody from today being studied in 4400
 

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Only people that take advantage of all this free information are smart,
but most people dont. You have free courses on how to make yourself more money
and people dont use it.
 

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I'm exaggerating somewhat, but look at the geniuses and business titans of today and compare them to the folks back in the day and their accomplishments.

Leonardo Do Vinci or Steve Jobs
Issac Newton or Neil Degrasse Tyson
Mozart or Quincy Jones


Even Thomas Jefferson's racist ass was rewriting his own version of the Bible while helping pen arguably the greatest governmental document in history. People just did more on there own merits. I mean accomplishments aren't exactly correlated to intelligence, but how else do you measure it in this instance.
You're comparing different groups of people, and there are a lot of issues with the two.
Leonardo da Vinci is an unparalleled genius, comparing him with anybody, really is sort of silly, especially nowadays, since technology, science, art, and education have advanced so much.
It'd be more like Leonardo da Vinci or Alan Turing
Isaac Newton or Srinivasan Ramanujan
Mozart or Yuja Wang, the circumstances are vastly different.
Don't forget, it was far easier to be a "jack-of-all-trades" centuries ago when the body of knowledge was much smaller, and "breakthroughs" were far easier to reach.
 

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You're comparing different groups of people, and there are a lot of issues with the two.
Leonardo da Vinci is an unparalleled genius, comparing him with anybody, really is sort of silly, especially nowadays, since technology, science, art, and education have advanced so much.
It'd be more like Leonardo da Vinci or Alan Turing
Isaac Newton or Srinivasan Ramanujan
Mozart or Yuja Wang, the circumstances are vastly different.
Don't forget, it was far easier to be a "jack-of-all-trades" centuries ago when the body of knowledge was much smaller, and "breakthroughs" were far easier to reach.

Ramanujan got a lot of his shyt from these dreams he said he had, where Hindu gods would come at him with scrolls of mathematics and teach him what was up. This is why nobody understands how he got to his insights and theories, they just know that it works.

The rational explanation would be that homie had that knowledge in him subconsciously somehow, and because he was a religious man it was expressed to him in his dreams in a religious way.
 

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this. you know how many times, especially at work, some clown would pretend to be an expert on some shyt their just read own wikipedia or some blog.



those guys solved the relative easier problems. the things that are left to be invented or problems to be solved are much more complex. not taking anything from those earlier guys though.
Stop it slime :stopitslime:
 
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