Are the terms "hoe" and "incel" really just two sides of the same coin?

[Westbama Heartthrob]

In the way that they're used to shame even when they don't accurately describe the person?

I've seen married men with kids get called incels because they say some ignorant shyt about women. When it would make more sense to just call them misogynistic

Or women being called hoes cause they have a "looser" vagina. Like they all supposed to be the same size and unable to expand or contract

Its like regardless of politics, people are reducing worth down to how much sex you have

Which can make sense initially no matter which side you're on. But ain't it just perpetuating the problem?

Ex. Nikkas fukking women they don't even like to run their numbers up, creating broken homes in the process

Or women who suppress their sexual urges till marriage but can't have sex once the vows are said cause the mental blocks are too ingrained in her mental

shyt has always been bad but I'm not even sure I wanna know how much worse things will get as technology advances and people get more and more isolated

 

[ba'al]

Idk I just learn to ignore most that crap nowadays especially on here.

Whatever buzzword is hot and trending that what people will use and say.

At some point of your time on thecoli you will be called something. I use to go back and forth on here when I was in highschool but now I don't even waste time. It's a saturday I ain't arguing with you especially if you older than me.

 

[Turtle]

I mean they’re inverse

 

[Bryan Danielson]

No


also one is a 50+ year old insult the other onlu been around in the last 3 years or so and most people still don’t know what it is….

People wasnt calling other folks incels even in 2015

absolutely not in the 90s or 80s

YNs, what yall doing man

 

[Doobie Doo]

Its like regardless of politics, people are reducing worth down to how much sex you have

Which can make sense initially no matter which side you're on. But ain't it just perpetuating the problem?

Ex. Nikkas fukking women they don't even like to run their numbers up, creating broken homes in the process

Or women who suppress their sexual urges till marriage but can't have sex once the vows are said cause the mental blocks are too ingrained in her mental

Uh yeah cuz puzzy accessibility defines your worth. Obviously if you can't get no puzzy and it ain't by choice theres a good chance you don't have money, power, bad communication skills etc. Something significant is off with you if can't get NO PUZZY and you are really trying.

Obviously if a nikka ain't trying to lock it down you provide zero value to him outside of puzzy.

 

[ba'al]

also one is a 50+ year old insult the other onlu been around in the last 3 years or so and most people still don’t know what it is….

I don't think OP wasn't talking about the age of these words.

People wasnt calling other folks incels even in 2015

Wasn't the concept of being a "incel" around though. I think before incel people would say maybe lame, sqaure, dorky, nerd, or geek. The 40 year old virgin movie is based on the concept of being a incel.

YNs, what yall doing man

YN

Whatever buzzword is hot and trending that what people will use and say.

 

[010101]

NO*

 

[Canada Goose]

The concept of incel been around for at least 20 years, nikkas was getting clowned for not getting p*ssy in MIDDLE SCHOOL This was 03-06.



Just that back then there wasn't a name for it. It was usually "this nikka gets no p*ssy" or "this nikka gets no ass".

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I don't think OP wasn't talking about the age of these words.

Wasn't the concept of being a "incel" around though. I think before incel people would say maybe lame, sqaure, dorky, nerd, or geek. The 40 year old virgin movie is based on the concept of being a incel.

YN

I guess what I’m getting at in short is “no”

they not 2 sides of the same coin

the concept ain’t the same, you can be a lame, square or dorky nerd geek…. But not be an incel

Coli got a bunch of lame geeky dork niccas….. but not all are incels

 

[ba'al]

The concept of incel been around for at least 20 years, nikkas was getting clowned for not getting p*ssy in MIDDLE SCHOOL This was 03-06.



Just that back then there wasn't a name for it. It was usually "this nikka gets no p*ssy" or "this nikka gets no ass".

True. I remember nikkas making fun of other guys for not getting ass. But nikkas gonna act dumb in this thread.
They would also say "You get no play."

I guess what I’m getting at in short is “no”

they not 2 sides of the same coin

the concept ain’t the same, you can be a lame, square or dorky nerd geek…. But not be an incel

Coli got a bunch of lame geeky dork niccas….. but not all are incels

So being a incel is a entirely new thing in your opinion?

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Uh yeah cuz puzzy accessibility defines your worth. Obviously if you can't get no puzzy and it ain't by choice theres a good chance you don't have money, power, bad communication skills etc. Something significant is off with you if can't get NO PUZZY and you are really trying.

Obviously if a nikka ain't trying to lock it down you provide zero value to him outside of puzzy.

Like I said, it makes sense initially but it leads to the problems we see on the daily

At the end of the day, a dude ain't harming anyone by not getting laid

But dudes will manipulate, assault, and discard any number of people to escape that label

So what do they really gain?

Not being able to get a woman is a problem, but running through them isn't the fix for it

It just seems like the criticism is directed at frivolous shyt instead of what's best for the individual. Cause a dry dikk is better than a disease ridden one

I just feel too many are being lead to their demise. To glorify the wrong shyt instead of building qualities to be a good partner

Now, don't get me wrong I love some some good, no string attached shyt

But when I think about what I had to go through to get here, I feel like I could've had a way better experience chasing something longterm from the jump

So my hope for the next generation would be that they get there without going through the bullshyt. Though it def won't be easy. Cycles repeat cause they def aren't after all

 

[Bryan Danielson]

True. I remember nikkas making fun of other guys for not getting ass. But nikkas gonna act dumb in this thread.
They would also say "You get no play."

So being a incel is a entirely new thing in your opinion?

Hmmmm….. I think maybe the concept of it probably isnt new but the malicious insulting attack of it is.


If someone called someone an incel in 81 the reactions is probably



2022 and on is mainly when niccas started and on both sides

 

[Child_Of_God]

Men get shamed/ridiculed for having no sex and women get shamed/ridiculed for having too much sex.

 

[SunZoo]

In terms of how people use them colloquially yeah, particularly with incel which is supposed to mean involuntarily celebrate but being that they notoriously hate women, men who hate them while also using them for sex don't really deserve the grace to get into the semantics,

As for ho's, the same men, who either wish they could be having sex, or use said types of women to bolster their masculinity are certainly on the other side of the coin of all the things they supposedly hate about them (themselves). Funny thing, beneath the ego tripping and trauma there is a perfect middle ground...

 

[Jazzy B.]

I’ve already broke it down.

That is the OLD DEFINITION of an “incel”

“Incel” in 2023 is now defined as ANY male who doesn’t pander to women and holds them accountable. Women rebranded the word to SHUT men UP from calling them out.

“Incel” is the new modern word for women calling a man a misogynist. It is used to shut men down from calling out women.