How was Oakley not garbage as a second best player?
A big man with no post in the 80slol at draymon, la and flabby Wade being better than Kyrie.
Are There Any NBA Teams That Would NOT Be Contenders If They Had Bron?
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A big man with no post in the 80slol at draymon, la and flabby Wade being better than Kyrie.
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
I wasn't even watching basketball then but my best guess is that Oak wasn't wack. He got picked 9th in the '85 draft--ahead of Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, and AC Green. So I wouldn't say he was garbage breh.How was Oakley not garbage as a second best player?
lol at draymon, la and flabby Wade being better than Kyrie.
As for the list...the list is the list. I don't make the news, I just report it. It's difficult to rank players across different positions but I don't think it's crazy to have Lamarcus, Draymond, and DWade in the top 15. You're looking at Kyrie through the rosy, post-glow of his Finals performance so I get how you're trying to say I'm underrating him. But I'm talking pre-Finals Kyrie.
Pre finals Kyrie is the same Kyrie we've always known.
And I don't give a fukk where Oak was drafted. Sam Bowie was drafted high. So what? Oakley never scored 15 ppg in his career. His highest was 14 and he shot 44 percent as a big. fukk outta here bruh. Lebrons got by worse teams than mj had to play against. The 2007 Pistons were a joke compared to the bad boys and the Celtics. THATS who Jordan lost to for all you corny (losing before the finals isn't better than getting there).
Once mj had a sidekick he was unbeatable. Bron had TWO sidekicks and got his ass kicked multiple times. #yalldontwantthefacts
OK Skip.MJ wouldn't have took a L in the finals though like Lebron did
The great thing we are seeing about Lebron at this stage is what we wanted to see from him early in his career which is his unwillingness to lose. Lebron just wouldn't lose against the Warriors you saw that in this series. Thats what MJ had his entire career. Now we can debate and say Jordans teams were more complete but Ive seen moments in Lebrons career where he didn't want that final shot he didn't wanna lead etc.
Yea he went back to a top 10-13 player and another all starlast time he was in Cleveland he had no Williams and didn't (contend) for shyt so how would he go to other teams and contend? Lebron only starting contending when he had 2 other bonafied all stars next to him. (Horace Grant was never a bonafied star). You nikkas are weird and misinformed
You're talking about those two guys who never even sniffed the playoffs before he made it?
The Cavs went from not even in the playoffs and multiple lottery picks to getting their first championship in the span of two years.
So because you never made the playoffs means you aren't a top guy? Yet a bunch of you nikkas think Cousins is a top player. Kyrie was the only star on his team as was Love. If love came to Cleveland with Kyrie they'd be a playoff team easily. Just not a contender.
1:40 another reason mj the GOAT. While Lebron is taking games off In the regular season this nikka mj was going all out 82 games with a much more physical game. #nothingbutfacts
Lebron NEVER played 82 games in a season.
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
Hold up. How old are you? Serious question. If you ain't like 40 I don't even know if I can take what you're saying seriously. If you weren't watching ball in the 80s, I don't see how you can confidently speak on that era in comparison to now. Not tryna be dismissive but I just wannnnnnnna knowwwwwww before I keep responding.
T.he I.nformant
1st Ballot HOF Teller
Yeah. To be honest I don't really feel super strongly about @stilltheguru having him at 10-15. That's not completely ridulous because he's definitely shown that he's an elite talent. I just think he elevated his game and took a step forward with the Finals performance--in other words, he moved up the rankings because of the success he had on the biggest stage in the biggest moments. So whereas before I kind of had him lumped in with a bunch of guys who are also really good I think he kind of separated himself a little bit with how well he played in the Finals.
You do realize Kyrie has been THAT nice for a minute now, right?
While there are some teams that he alone wouldn't turn into title contenders, I agree with the gist of what you're saying. He does turn any team into a playoff team at the least. What does that say about the quality of the league tho?Are there any teams that are so bad that Bron couldn't save them?
Seriously, take a team's best player and replace them with Bron and tell me they still don't have a chance to win a title. I dare you. I really can't think of any...especially those Eastern Conference teams.
It's fukking ridiculous how valuable/important/impactful he is.
YouTube is your friend.Hold up. How old are you? Serious question. If you ain't like 40 I don't even know if I can take what you're saying seriously. If you weren't watching ball in the 80s, I don't see how you can confidently speak on that era in comparison to now. Not tryna be dismissive but I just wannnnnnnna knowwwwwww before I keep responding.
@T.he I.nformant let me know what that Bulls roster looking like and how Lebron would've done work
