Are There Any NBA Teams That Would NOT Be Contenders If They Had Bron?

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While there are some teams that he alone wouldn't turn into title contenders, I agree with the gist of what you're saying. He does turn any team into a playoff team at the least. What does that say about the quality of the league tho?
It's a fair question. I tend to thing it has more to do with how impactful LBJ can be on a team. But I see what you're saying. LBJ has been to 6 straight Finals because he's good, his teams have been good, and the rest of the Eastern conference has been pretty mediocre. But just saying the league is of poor quality dismisses these really strong teams that have battling it out in the Western Conference for the past decade. It also makes it seem like this era is unique in that there are really own 6 legit contenders vying for a championship. That's always been the case. There's a part of me that thinks the league is just as competitive and good as it's always been. Gotta remember that there were a lot of bad teams in the 90s as well as the 80s--and I would probably have made a similar thread if posting in those eras about how the best player in the era being able to almost instantly make any team a contender.
 

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@T.he I.nformant let me know what that Bulls roster looking like and how Lebron would've done work

Biggest void right now is at the PG spot with a he departure of Rose. Current guys just won't get the job done. Bring Bron in and have him truly embrace that point forward/distributor/facilitator role and you have no problem. Pair Bron with Butler and you got a fukking nice duo that's going to bring athleticism, versatility, and toughness. You got a nice shooter, a la Mike Miller, in McBuckets. Valentine could be a nice role player. Got some solid talent in the front court with Taj, Mirotic, and Lopez. Definitely have a huge hole at the 4 and 5 spot with Gasol and Noah likely exiting but that might not be a bad thing with Noah not being able stay on the court anyway and Gasol not really offering much else than shooting and lazy rebounding/defensive. Have someone like Bron and maybe you're able to lure a Horford. Traditional PG and athletic shooter would still be desired though. But in the East, this is a team that could still make some noise in the playoffs.
 

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It's a fair question. I tend to thing it has more to do with how impactful LBJ can be on a team. But I see what you're saying. LBJ has been to 6 straight Finals because he's good, his teams have been good, and the rest of the Eastern conference has been pretty mediocre. But just saying the league is of poor quality dismisses these really strong teams that have battling it out in the Western Conference for the past decade.
No it doesn't. I don't dismiss any team, I just judge take them for what they are. Sure there are some "strong" teams in the league but no great teams. There are always going to be teams that battle it out for the championship. Somebody has to win. Toronto made the esteem conference finals, does that mean that they're a great team? No it doesn't. Sure teams battle it out every year, I'm saying that they aren't that good in comparison to previous eras.

It also makes it seem like this era is unique in that there are really own 6 legit contenders vying for a championship. That's always been the case. There's a part of me that thinks the league is just as competitive and good as it's always been.
Again, how competitive these current teams are with each other has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I'm saying that the quality of play across the board has dropped. Yea, there's always only been a handful of teams that are true contenders for the championship and that's probably always how it's going to be. My point is that the best teams of today don't compare to the best teams of previous eras. Take this Cleveland team that just won the ring, they really aren't that good. Especially in comparison to championship teams from previous eras. I'm just not overly impressed with their quality of play.

Gotta remember that there were a lot of bad teams in the 90s as well as the 80s--and I would probably have made a similar thread if posting in those eras about how the best player in the era being able to almost instantly make any team a contender.
Well you'd be wrong then because you wouldn't have been able to put Magic or Bird on just any team in the 80s to make them contenders. Mike was the clear best individual player for years before he was on a true title contending team. See, back then you had better players on better/deeper teams playing a higher quality of basketball. The talent at the front court positions has completely fallen off. Post play as a whole has completely fallen off. People ignore this but it's crucial. It's why the quality of play just doesn't compare that if previous eras. The two finals teams had one somewhat decent post player between them, and that was Lebron. "Somewhat decent" is a generous description of dude's post game. Just think about that.
 

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Put Bron on any team with a legit all star guard that can slash, create and is willing to sacrifice their game to fit in lebrons system... then line up some shooters and hustle rebounder/paint protector and bron's team is a contender. Now winning it is a diff story because the west is so strong
 

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Add Bron to the Lakers now and they'll make the playoffs first year then compete for the western conf finals the year after :ld:
 

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You do realize Kyrie has been THAT nice for a minute now, right?


nikkaz act like kyrie was not the top pick in a draft where he was injured most of the year.
Plus, came into his own as a three point contest winner before Steph and clay as well.

Plus people forget he got hurt like derrick rose and Westbrook.


Just anyone omitting that I know is disqualified from speaking on kyrie.


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Y'all forgetting when Lebron wasn't making the finals without a wade or kyrie.
holly shyt imagine a team of Bron's 00s supporting cast having their own team shyt would be a disaster :dead:

mo williams
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ready to retire shaq lmao
flopping varejao

thats like a sam hinkie's tanking starter kit dream, even current nets might be better because brook lopez can ball,

it would be awesome to see kobe's mid 00s supporting cast playing against this squad
 

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Yall really overrating dude. For the decade almost he's been playing with 2 all-stars and all kinds of role players who take cheaper deals to join these loaded squads. He is amazing but he ain't taking the Lakers or the sixers to the finals smh lmao.
 

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Y'all young cats trying too hard. Lol and there is no excuse with YouTube around. just be happy Lebron is great and stop bringing up GOAT talk because yak don't really want that convo.


Metta just said on twitter that Bron was the GOAT though sooooo :yeshrug:
 
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