Are we ready to admit that R&B isn't a real genre of music?

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What first came to be known as "Rhythm & Blues" was actually in simple terms = uptempo Blues w/ a hard backbeat






Yes, early Rock n Roll music is simply Rhythm and Blues with a name change

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Jazz is a swung music w/o backbeats (before Hardbop and Fusion came along via Black Gosepl and then Rock n Roll)









Country music is early blues + white anglo-celtic twang. Country didn't have any backbeats until it absorbed R&B and became Hillbilly Boogie/Rockabilly and modern commercial Country

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No, it's really a SPECIFIC music that began in the 1940s/1950s






This is because FKA Twigs uses/sings in Soul music-derived style; In the beginning before it was called "Soul", the style of music that Ray Charles birthed was ALSO called R&B


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Modern "White Rock N Roll" stayed closer to Black Electric (and acoustic) Blues (a variant of Rhythm & Blues that Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley came out of)











While Blacks acts mixed in Black Gospel vocals to the R&B (which is technically Rock n Roll under its original name) and turned it into Soul->Funk/Funk Rock->Disco











"R&B" isn't a catchall term in the way "Race music" was but obviously, it can be used in a way to segregate music/musicians.

I was just about to @ you too :russ:
 

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Another way to look at it, is that all of these genres are sub-genres of the Blues

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but in a more modern context/as it relates to the thread starter's question; Soul, Dunk, Disco, etc.. are variants of the the OG Rhythm and Blues


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R&B is a "macro genre" while Soul, Funk, Disco are "micro genres", which on their own have sub-micro genres/regional sounds (Southern Soul, Philly Soul, Stax, Chicago sound, Motown etc...New Orleans Funk, Ohio Funk, Bay Area Funk, Detroit Funk, Memphis Funk, Texas Funk etc...)







 

Justin Nitsuj

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I would rather say that Pop and K Pop isn’t real music genres because one of them is white based and the other one is just them redoing Black American classic music :scust:
 
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