Are we ready to have some uncomfortable discussions about ‘The Wire’?

King Harlem

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Yeah so how can you say its a show about the city of Baltimore when its literally a show only about the bad parts of baltimore?


80% of the people the show focused on were bad or evil.
Its strange you watch a show and suddenly bad crooked cops aren't bad now.
drug dealers who murder and terrorize their own communities aren't bad
dirty lying and cheating politicians aren't bad
theives aren't bad
junkied aren't bad

Since when in reality are these people not bad?
After reading through your responses, you have clear biases which cloud your view of the show.
Even your use of terms like bad and evil when discussing people seems like you missed the point of the show.
 
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That was the goal

Dysfunctional educational system
Bingo. The Wire showed really smart people that got caught up in the game but usually did OK because they were smart. It also showed how bad the schools were. Most of the kids had no chance.

Crazy that WeeBay's son, of all the kids, made it out. Dookie had zero help. Michael was the smartest but had to become a killer to save himself and his little brother.
 

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After reading through your responses, you have clear biases which cloud your view of the show.
Even your use of terms like bad and evil when discussing people seems like you missed the point of the show.
Bad and evil exists.
There is nothing high minded about refusing to use those terms.
Now is a personally born evil or good? No.
But the actions that people take make them bad or evil or good.
The actions of the characters depicted on this show are largely of evil, they knowingly and purposely do wrong.
 

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i felt that the point of The Wire was that the system fails everyone :hubie:

the school kids. the teenagers. the adults. the cops. the teachers. the politicians.

at the end of the day, everyone was fukked
The legal system and political system is comprised of people
the criminal system is comprised of people.
All these people contributed to that little part of the ghetto they showed you being shyt.

Yet instead of looking at the very image they showed you and saying those people, the cops, the teachers, the politicians, the community, the drug dealers, the murderers should choose to live better and stop making their communities hell, you take the onus off them and claim somehow they are victims for being the embodiment and active participants in the actions that harms themselves and others.

Make that make sense.
 

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The legal system and political system is comprised of people
the criminal system is comprised of people.
All these people contributed to that little part of the ghetto they showed you being shyt.

Yet instead of looking at the very image they showed you and saying those people, the cops, the teachers, the politicians, the community, the drug dealers, the murderers should choose to live better and stop making their communities hell, you take the onus off them and claim somehow they are victims for being the embodiment and active participants in the actions that harms themselves and others.

Make that make sense.

You're such a whining little fakkit.
 

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Bad and evil exists.
There is nothing high minded about refusing to use those terms.
Now is a personally born evil or good? No.
But the actions that people take make them bad or evil or good.
The actions of the characters depicted on this show are largely of evil, they knowingly and purposely do wrong.
Again, you discuss bad and evil like the Wire is some type of Superhero show.
The legal system and political system is comprised of people
the criminal system is comprised of people.
All these people contributed to that little part of the ghetto they showed you being shyt.
You missed so much in the show. It's a mirror of society and specifically the city of Baltimore. It's not supposed to be some idealized view of humanity.
Yet instead of looking at the very image they showed you and saying those people, the cops, the teachers, the politicians, the community, the drug dealers, the murderers should choose to live better and stop making their communities hell, you take the onus off them and claim somehow they are victims for being the embodiment and active participants in the actions that harms themselves and others.

Make that make sense.
You're talking about people, but the Wire shows that the system is broken. They are constantly reinforcing 'THE CHAIN OF COMMAND' throughout the series and if you break that chain there will be consequences.
 

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Bad and evil exists.
There is nothing high minded about refusing to use those terms.
Now is a personally born evil or good? No.
But the actions that people take make them bad or evil or good.
The actions of the characters depicted on this show are largely of evil, they knowingly and purposely do wrong.
Good and evil does exist just not in the way you want it to. Criminality, right and wrong change everyday? Something was criminal and wrong today, but tomorrow its okay. Did I suddenly become a good person? Something was perfectly fine today, tomorrow it's bad/wrong, am I now a bad evil person?
 
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