Are we still pretending that not voting is going to solve our problems?

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I think the whole don't vote wave is just a way to put a ribbon on political laziness

But what problems has voting Democrat solved for you :jbhmm:

A lot of Democrat strongholds have been fukked up for decades, just like some Republican ones. What problems have the Democrats solved in all the high crime, low income + investment big cities they've controlled over the last ~30 years?

shyt is getting to the point where valid questions have to be asked and answered.

Yes for some people they are just politically lazy.

But for others your post is very pertinent.
 

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I think the whole don't vote wave is just a way to put a ribbon on political laziness

But what problems has voting Democrat solved for you :jbhmm:

A lot of Democrat strongholds have been fukked up for decades, just like some Republican ones. What problems have the Democrats solved in all the high crime, low income + investment big cities they've controlled over the last ~30 years?

shyt is getting to the point where valid questions have to be asked and answered.

Exactly, breh. 45 of these mothafukkas have been elected. One was half African.

Still nikka :unimpressed:

America has centuries of proof that they are NEVER going to do right. Yet fools buy into this shyt thinking it’s magically gonna be different. What do you call doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results?

It’s time to get on this REVOLUTION wave. fukk a democrat and a republican.
 

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Will we get what we need with Biden in office?

I am absolutely sure that we will be better off with Biden than Trump. But that is a relative answer.
This is the thing.
I'ts not up to Biden to give us what we need.
It's up to us to dictate to all of our elected officials what we need, give that official the support to push our initiatives through and roast their political lives into ruin if they fail to deliver.
 

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Exactly, breh. 45 of these mothafukkas have been elected. One was half African.

Still nikka :unimpressed:

America has centuries of proof that they are NEVER going to do right. Yet fools buy into this shyt thinking it’s magically gonna be different. What do you call doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results?

It’s time to get on this REVOLUTION wave. fukk a democrat and a republican.
Breh people have to actually take advantage of the system as it is now. America is a pay for play system. ADOS could accomplish a lot more with effective lobbying. Lobbyists don't give a fukk about anything but money.
 

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Perhaps the the most false talking point that I've seen when it comes to Black American politics is:
"The Democrats are just as bad, if not worse, than the Republicans."

This isn't even remotely close to true. Yes, it's true that the DNC takes our votes for granted and they could give a shyt less about us outside of that. Even with that, that still doesn't support the above statement. By no means am I advocating for us to be satisfied with the crumbs the DNC throws us. There's a way to deal with that situation, but that's a topic for another discussion.

As I've said many times before, my only gripes with Tariq have to do with his lack of political knowledge.
He likes to say "They think they can scare us with Trump. We'll survive Trump like everything else."
If you're not worried about Trump as the leader of the most powerful country on the planet, then you don't know enough.

The American political fiasco that has played out on the world stage due to COVID-19 proves my point. The Republicans should put you on high alert, if they dont already.

Instead of trying to convince mfs what kind of creatures you're dealing with, I can just point you to the news.They're letting it all hang out. After a couple weeks of shutdown, they literally went on TV and tried to convince Americans that dying of a potentially lethal virus....is not that bad. Especially if it will save the economy. It will be a noble sacrifice. Besides, mostly old folks are gonna die, and they'll understand. Hell, some will be happy to do it. They put beloved television personality Dr. Oz on TV to tell you to send your kids back to school. He said yes, 2-3% of them will die, but that's not so bad is it?

When that didn't quite work, we get this:
GOP: "Hey, you can go back outside now!":troll:
America: "Is it safe?":wtb:
GOP: "No. Not at all, but go 'head!":mjlit:

Instead of footing the bill for this crisis, these mfs literally want you to kill yourself. Again, they have literally appealed to American citizens to sacrifice themselves for the sake of the economy.
BTW, if you think forcing businesses to re-open will make everything magically go back to normal, it wont. It will make things worse than they are now. So not only is their plan sick and based in greed, it's a dumb ass plan that will fail miserably. Yo don't even need to be an economist to see that. So much for being the smartest guys in the room.

How does handing the the keys to all three branches of the government to them help us?

Voting and not voting is not going to solve Black people problems and the problem Black people have is White Supremacy and your not going to destroy White Supremacy by voting:





If you have a plan on how Black people can destroy the System of White Supremacy by voting, I would like to know the plan?
 
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Breh people have to actually take advantage of the system as it is now. America is a pay for play system. ADOS could accomplish a lot more with effective lobbying. Lobbyists don't give a fukk about anything but money.

Lobbyists truly run the country and it's why the average vote doesn't really matter. You can't beat the lobbyists. Their pockets are too deep.

Black lobbyists? We need money and unity for that. :francis:
 

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Lobbyists truly run the country and it's why the average vote doesn't really matter. You can't beat the lobbyists. Their pockets are too deep.

Black lobbyists? We need money and unity for that. :francis:
Haven't we been "woke" and "gettin' money" for some time now?
All this talk of "the bag" in our community. Who actually has said bag?
 
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The difference is that those groups go to the candidates they want to back with an organized ask to present.
While asking, they have their checkbooks out.
If the candidate gets elected, those groups stay on that politician's head make sure that ask gets accomplished or at the very least, acted upon.

This the part of the political process that we totally miss. Thinking that our political responsibility ends at the voting booth.
"organized ask" and "checkbooks" are easily undermined by the use of racialized buzzwords and the corporate backed "coalition building" efforts...again, as the primary results prove, because certain group members benefit
 

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This is the thing.
I'ts not up to Biden to give us what we need.
It's up to us to dictate to all of our elected officials what we need, give that official the support to push our initiatives through and roast their political lives into ruin if they fail to deliver.

So all black people need to do is make demands and "threaten to ruin their political lives"?

Breh, politicians are paid by lobbyists they don't give a fukk what your broke ass wants. :mjlol:
 

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Lobbyists truly run the country and it's why the average vote doesn't really matter. You can't beat the lobbyists. Their pockets are too deep.

Black lobbyists? We need money and unity for that. :francis:
The game is the game. If ADOS can't unify to get lobbyists they def won't be able to unify for a revolution.

Nowadays political activism is nothing more than people saying and gravitating to whatever makes them feel good :yeshrug:
 

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The game is the game. If ADOS can't unify to get lobbyists they def won't be able to unify for a revolution.

Nowadays political activism is nothing more than people saying and gravitating to whatever makes them feel good :yeshrug:

Man you're SPOT ON about that. But since we have to unite anyway, I'd rather do it under the red, black and green than the red, white and blue.

Why get our shyt together only to go back to our oppressor?
 
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