Are we supposed to be pleased with DLSS?

[winb83]

Skimping on graphics cards having more raw power to instead introduce fake frames? It seems like with the Nvidia 50 series they’ve just doubled down on these fake frames and are inventing more of them instead of pushing more power for a better real frame rate.

 

[Rekkapryde]

 

[Fatboi1]

The 5080/5090 are still powerful as hell. DLSS and multi frame gen does a lot of work for the lower cards which can be convincing. Input latency is the thing that needs to be improved though as 120fps+ through fake frames still feels like 60fps but visually looks smoother.

 

[Jaguar93]

 

[winb83]

The 5080/5090 are still powerful as hell. DLSS and multi frame gen does a lot of work for the lower cards which can be convincing. Input latency is the thing that needs to be improved though as 120fps+ through fake frames still feels like 60fps but visually looks smoother.

They've gone as far to say that a $549 card this generation performs at a level of last gen's $1699 card because it can produce these artificial frames to reach a given frame rate. Those produced frames aren't really a part of the game. This is the graphics card version of TV's motion interpolation.

 

[daze23]

it just shows were hitting the end of Moore's Law. without a steady increase in transistor count, they have to explore other methods

personally I don't mind as long as it helps with IQ and performance, and doesn't create too many artifacts or input lag

 

[The Phoenix]

Does it really matter? For me the answer is no as long as they price it correctly. Don't charge $2000 for a card that doesn't actually have that power. For instance if the 5090 was only as powerful as the 4090 but because of a couple of added "chips" are whatever they add to these cards, the 5090 can produce double the frames from software, and that software isn't able to be run on the 4090 card. In that case, the price of the cards should be similar with a small bump in price to the 5090 for the added "chips". But it should not be treated as a card that can natively produce those frames. And the price should reflect that inability. As long as they are straight up about what the card does and doesn't do and have some honesty in the pricing, I say let it rip and everyone enjoy themselves.