Armani Caesar - Liz 2 LP (Discussion Thread)

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Griselda is making money hand over fist. She, like Benny, was doing more mainstream sounding stuff, and got nowhere. It's all intentional. Their fanbase is RABID. Reselling their merch is becoming a mini cottage industry. Liz 2 hoodies are 150 each, and most were sold out in a day. All sold out now.


Hoodies are dope

:ehh:
 

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They intentionally make limited runs of the merch so it's collectible/resellable. What other GIRL is selling 150 dollar hoodies? Do they even HAVE merch?

Benny and Def Jam? fukk if I know.

AGAIN, she did the usual trap/new shyt. She is doing something to stand out. And it's woking. She's on the same huge festival stages all the others are, and only has 1 person in her pocket (WSG) as opposed to 10.

What good is the "exposure" if you're getting fukked?
Does Griselda rap or sell merchandise first? You're bringing up Merch like every rapper on earth doesn't have merch. I don't know how you got to her getting fukked from me saying that she could be doing a bunch of things to put her in a bigger/better position. I never said she needed to leave griselda to do that.
Like @TripleAgent said, she did that, and was not getting anywhere. She was one of 10000 women doing the same stuff and now she’s 1 of like 3. She’ll be fine.

Y'all said that about Benny and he ran to Def Jam, Conway slid off Griselda, and every other day Westside Gunn is on Twitter crying about not getting the looks that bigger rappers are getting.
 

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She needs to get on real beats if she wants to be taken seriously. Them griselda-type beats sound dusty, especially with a woman spitting on them. They work for a dusty nikka talking about flipping a pack but not for a female trying to spit slick. She needs to get with some producers that work with females.
Taken seriously by who?
 

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Does Griselda rap or sell merchandise first? You're bringing up Merch like every rapper on earth doesn't have merch. I don't know how you got to her getting fukked from me saying that she could be doing a bunch of things to put her in a bigger/better position. I never said she needed to leave griselda to do that.


Y'all said that about Benny and he ran to Def Jam, Conway slid off Griselda, and every other day Westside Gunn is on Twitter crying about not getting the looks that bigger rappers are getting.
Their shows are packed, the merch sells out immediately on the site and the show tables. I don't see these bird rappers selling merch. She started a boutique also. They are doing better than most of these rappers. I'm sure WSG would like to be Drake level, but that's not realistic. Again, he probably has more bread than 90% of people rapping since he came out. The number might be higher. Benny and Conway are still Griselda, but they're SMARTLY starting their own labels with their own rosters. With their own shows, and their own merch. They make the music they want, and are still making large bread. Genius to me.
 
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Taken seriously by who?

The average female rap fan doesn't know that she exists because they aren't riding around bumping griselda. Case in point, this thread is full of dudes talking about the producers or her body. The quoted post under this one is a griselda fan admitting that WSG would like to be Drake level so why would this chick not want to be Nicki/Cardi level? That has a bigger chance of happening than WSG getting to drake's level. She would benefit from being polished up a bit and pushed .

Their shows are packed, the merch sells out immediately on the site and the show tables. I don't see these bird rappers selling merch. She started a boutique also. They are doing better than most of these rappers. I'm sure WSG would like to be Drake level, but that's not realistic. Again, he probably has more bread than 90% of people rappin since he came out. The number might be higher. Benny and Conway are still Griselda, but they're SMARTLY starting their own labels with their own rosters. With their own shows, and their own merch. They make the music they want, and are still making large bread. Genius to me.

You must not go to shows. All artist have merch. Most just sell it at shows. Them having a website to finesse suburban white kids into buying hundred dollar hoodies means nothing to me.

Griselda wants to be bigger than their fans want them to be.
 

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I wasn't feeling the album, I don't think she needs to go in the exact same lane as Meg or Cardi but this production and style isn't going to get her anywhere beyond a small niche audience which mostly just likes to look at her as oppose to actually supporting her, she has a 500k youtube views on the Kodak song which isn't much, she isn't going to gain any straight female fans with this style. I would like to see her mix up the production and flow some.
 

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Surprised how many have that take, given how many trash trap girls out there. Its been stated a bunch already that her trap records were floaters while Liz 1 & 2 are actually good.

She could easily get into R&B Rap and go more pop cos her sung hooks and love songs are fire but the thot route won't work unless she gets lucky with a viral hit. That's like trying to get rich off the lottery.
 

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I wasn't feeling the album, I don't think she needs to go in the exact same lane as Meg or Cardi but this production and style isn't going to get her anywhere beyond a small niche audience which mostly just likes to look at her as oppose to actually supporting her, she has a 500k youtube views on the Kodak song which isn't much, she isn't going to gain any straight female fans with this style. I would like to see her mix up the production and flow some.
That’s not bad

Not everyone is meant to be a star

Some people are actually artist you know and make the shyt they want to make :heh:

Her rap style and content sound good over this type of production she got a whole aesthetic going on

Also don’t pigeonhole women’s music taste there’s s lot of bohemian type bytches that listen to shyt like DOOM and Wu-Tang, there’s female hip hop heads music heads really shyt this chick goes viral for rapping to that type of music


Kodak song about to introduce her to a whole new audience

Shortie good she eats off rap and has other streams of income
 
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That’s not bad

Not everyone is meant to be a star

Some people are actually artist you know and make the shyt they want to make :heh:

Her rap style and content sound good over this type of production she got a whole aesthetic going on

Kodak song about to introduce her to a whole new audience

Shortie good she eats off rap and has other streams of income
Definitely introduced me to her…never heard of her until that shyt popped up on Apple Music…now her album is in my library
 

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That’s not bad

Not everyone is meant to be a star

Some people are actually artist you know and make the shyt they want to make :heh:

Her rap style and content sound good over this type of production she got a whole aesthetic going on

Also don’t pigeonhole women’s music taste there’s s lot of bohemian type bytches that listen to shyt like DOOM and Wu-Tang, there’s female hip hop heads music heads really shyt this chick goes viral for rapping to that type of music


Kodak song about to introduce her to a whole new audience

Shortie good she eats off rap and has other streams of income

Women aren't listening to this music, stop looking for the one offs plus that chick on Twitter is cos-playing listening to this knowing dudes are going to thirst in the comments. Most of Armani's streams on her channel for the album are doing under 5k. Her style can work over different production, this album's production all ran together after a while, yall just want to fukk, she bad but lyrically it was the same content for every song that we here from Cardi, Nicki etc. Rapping with Griselda doesn't make her different or unique
 
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