This interview here is right around the time he told my friend he worked on Relapse. He speaks highly of Iovine and says he wanted him to make “folk music like Bob Dylan.” It was likely Iovine’s idea to try to get him to write for Eminem, not Em’sPlaying devil's advocate here (because I don't believe it), do you know if Charles worked with them in Orlando? Because Eminem talked about it in his book. When they went there, one of the songs they made was "Underground" and that's when Eminem really started thinking he was back.