We are talking careers, face it, your boy didn't come through when it counts, you can't put him on the same level as D-Rob. The "you're still good even when you lose" attitude is why the NY teams stay gettin' they azz whooped when they play in SoFlo
Aryvdas Sabonis...What Could Have Been
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We are talking careers, face it, your boy didn't come through when it counts, you can't put him on the same level as D-Rob. The "you're still good even when you lose" attitude is why the NY teams stay gettin' they azz whooped when they play in SoFlo
Best passing big man I ever seen.
We are talking careers, face it, your boy didn't come through when it counts, you can't put him on the same level as D-Rob. The "you're still good even when you lose" attitude is why the NY teams stay gettin' they azz whooped when they play in SoFlo
If They Had The Same Exact Careers Up To 1999 And Ewing Had Duncan To Bail Him Out You'd Be Saying The Reverse, So It All Comes To Down To What Duncan Did
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Dude would've easily been a 20-10 player, plus good for 4-5 assists and the occasional three.
When you even consider that dude was an good center AFTER the injuries and being
it makes you realize how a special player he was.
When you even consider that dude was an good center AFTER the injuries and being
it makes you realize how a special player he was.
SwagKingKong
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Even after multiple knee injuries and being 31 years old he was better than Marc Gasol is today. I don't think people realize how good Sabonis actually was when he finally reached the NBA, despite not being able to sprint up and down the court and being hobbled by his knees. He literally couldn't move naturally on the court anymore and he was still GREAT. He obviously couldn't log 35+ minutes at this stage of his career, because of the injuries but if you check his per 36 mins stats, you'd be surprised at how well he produced on the floor.
As a rookie at 31 years old, he put up: 22 ppg (61.7 TS%) , 12.2 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.6 bpg and 1.3 spg with a PER of 24.7.
That's fukking insane. He was generally a player who didn't drop off much in the playoffs. Not to mention that his defense was still spectacular at this point of his career, finishing top 10 in defensive rating in 5 of his 7 years in the NBA.
I'm pretty sure he would be closer to a Hakeem, Shaq in his prime than Ewing and Robinson.
feelosofer
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He was just as good, if not better than Gasol, even at
I think Marc Gasol is the best center in the L and will continue to be so. Comparing Sabonis to Gasol is not an insult at either. Gasol is better than his career numbers imo. But yea Sabonis was a problem though, I remember that seies vs the Lakers and even Shaq was surprised at how spry dude was with busted knees.
You gon' put the choker on the same level with the winner?
I'm talking about tiers. Robinson isn't in that top group. He's in the second tier, with other great centers.
No need to make arguments one way or the other - if you prefer Robinson's skill set, cool. But robinson was a second and third fiddle in his championships with Duncan. A gritty older vet turning the clock back, riding the legs of a young phenom. These guys are right, you put Duncan with Ewing, and he's the one that won the championships.
But if my auntie had a dikk she's be my uncle.
Either way they're on the same level in the hierarchy of big men.
Your basketball knowledge is:
They're games are nothing alike. Sabonis was a true center, a load on the block, incredibly agile, a prolific passer, and a dominant presence in the middle from a defensive and rebounding perspective.
Dirk has never been any of those things. You just thought of the first euro tall guy that came to mind, and said "heavier" - pathetic shyt.
There are walton fans out there, and I'd prefer not to argue with them because you have to project non-injury careers... but Sabonis, if arrived in his youth/prime, would be the best Blazers center ever, and probably their best player ever.
I'm actually not sure what the argument is here, Sabonis is recognized as the best international big of all time (Akeem not withstanding) and has dominant performances on the world stage to back it up.
To compare him to a player that came into the league at 6-11 205 pounds, and a strict jumpshooter is insane to me.
The prerequisite for this conversation was having watched basketball. You didn't meet it.
I'm talking about tiers. Robinson isn't in that top group. He's in the second tier, with other great centers.
No need to make arguments one way or the other - if you prefer Robinson's skill set, cool. But robinson was a second and third fiddle in his championships with Duncan. A gritty older vet turning the clock back, riding the legs of a young phenom. These guys are right, you put Duncan with Ewing, and he's the one that won the championships.
But if my auntie had a dikk she's be my uncle.
Either way they're on the same level in the hierarchy of big men.
Your basketball knowledge is:
They're games are nothing alike. Sabonis was a true center, a load on the block, incredibly agile, a prolific passer, and a dominant presence in the middle from a defensive and rebounding perspective.
Dirk has never been any of those things. You just thought of the first euro tall guy that came to mind, and said "heavier" - pathetic shyt.
There are walton fans out there, and I'd prefer not to argue with them because you have to project non-injury careers... but Sabonis, if arrived in his youth/prime, would be the best Blazers center ever, and probably their best player ever.
I'm actually not sure what the argument is here, Sabonis is recognized as the best international big of all time (Akeem not withstanding) and has dominant performances on the world stage to back it up.
To compare him to a player that came into the league at 6-11 205 pounds, and a strict jumpshooter is insane to me.
The prerequisite for this conversation was having watched basketball. You didn't meet it.
The best blazers center??
Wow what an amazing accomplishment, what with all those classic centers that portland has had over the years
and you're telling me that dirk isnt agile? or a good passer?
yeah maybe you need to go watch some more espn classic before you try to kick hoop knowledge little nikka
Isiah Thomas was agile and a good passer, but I'm not comparing Sabonis to him.
The fact that you're comparing Sabonis to Dirk is beyond comprehension... Like, couldn't you even hit up google.com or youtube for a few videos before digging your heels in?
This is universal knowledge - He was one of the best centers in the world during the ERA OF CENTERS. By the time he got to the league, he'd been a pro for 16+ years. The player you think of as a blazer is the equivalent of a 37-40 year old in the nba.
This is what this site has come to? Schooling morons on basic facts?
Isiah Thomas was agile and a good passer, but I'm not comparing Sabonis to him.
The fact that you're comparing Sabonis to Dirk is beyond comprehension... Like, couldn't you even hit up google.com or youtube for a few videos before digging your heels in?
This is universal knowledge - He was one of the best centers in the world during the ERA OF CENTERS. By the time he got to the league, he'd been a pro for 16+ years. The player you think of as a blazer is the equivalent of a 37-40 year old in the nba.
nikka isiah also wasnt and isnt a 7 ft european 3 pt shooting all star motherfukker either, dirk is, so the comparison is more than valid
goofy ass nikka just stop, the fact of the matter is arvydas wouldnt have been shyt even if he got to the league 10 years earlier than he did, he would've just been another all star without a ring
Kids these days... This is what happens when you grow up playing video games, instead of sports.
