As a longtime Lebron hater(circa 2003), I can officially say he's done

[Scott Larock]

seems to ALWAYS be the problem.

Pippin couldn't win a chip without Jordan though.

LeBron ain't Jordan, if you blaming his supporting cast, what cast do you expect to out around LeBron and win?

You say Jordan needed two Allstars to win each title?

The heat with LeBron probably would lose to this GS team. They weren't a great rebounding team also, not much shot blocking, only positive for the heat is Wade and LeBron on the wing, and wades post up game is 1000x better than Brons.

This cavs would probably win via 11 and 12 but teams are getting better out west.

LeBron cavs are undermanned, they're gonna trade love to Boston most likely but that's not the probably, they need a more stable point guard and another shooter.

Steve Kerr is right though and at 31 Bron seems done.

Shouldnhsbe finished his career in Miami but he's a businessman so I don't blame him.

He doesn't have much left in the tank though, he's falling off already.

 

[Scott Larock]

he's not even done. he is playing way too many minutes for his size and age, though. the cavs are a shyt team from a shyt conference

With his skillset what exactly you put around him? He can't post, can't shoot and is aging, literally he needs Melo or someone to take the load off him, kyrie Imo is too short to try to out up 30 a game with his erratic skills.

Bring in Blake or Melo

 

[Trece]

It's funny this was brought up in this thread. I thought I was tripping, but something just didn't seem right about that series. I wanted the Mavs to win, but I thought the Heat had the better team and would win in five worst case scenario.

That's when I started to think the LeBron with the Heat wouldn't work cuz there was gonna be some friction between him and Wade as far as whose team it was.

A couple of gems in this thread. I do know that Lebron quit on the cavs in 2010 by being passive as fukk and playing hot potato with the ball against the Celts I think. Its now common knowledge that dude was pissed that Delonte was chopping down his mom and he thought everyone knew about it and no one told him. So he quit the series and left the team.

But I have always wondered about him quitting against the Mavs. Dude looked scared as fukk out there but maybe there is some truth to this..

 

[theGoldmangod]

Would rep you. Lol @ green grass and dead grass though

@theGoldmangod .....I've never heard anyone say that lebron sabotaged that series, wtf? Is there some evidence to this or just hearsay? Youtube compilation or anything? I'm not doubting your assertion but im just curious...

Its mine and a lot of people's opinion based on what we saw. For me, it wasn't even that he was trash on offense. Tbh the Heat could have won still with his offense being so poor bc Wade was balling and carrying the team on that end. What stood out to me and made it obvious that he wasn't trying was his defense.

This is a guy who played a part in locking up Rose when he was still dominant in the ECF. Only to proceed to get schooled by Jason Terry and JJ Barea and shyt

Bron can have a bad series on offense. It happens, he's human. But the way he checked out defensively...thats the main reason I think something was up.

 

[NZA]

With his skillset what exactly you put around him? He can't post, can't shoot and is aging, literally he needs Melo or someone to take the load off him, kyrie Imo is too short to try to out up 30 a game with his erratic skills.

Bring in Blake or Melo

melo would be a great addition

 

[THE MACHINE]

If you replaced Bron with KD, do the Cavs win this series?

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

If you replaced Bron with KD, do the Cavs win this series?

No GS was destined for a dynasty

 

[MostReal]

With his skillset what exactly you put around him? He can't post, can't shoot and is aging, literally he needs Melo or someone to take the load off him, kyrie Imo is too short to try to out up 30 a game with his erratic skills.

man yall are just throwing dirt on the guy. He's not finished!!!
He may not get another ring but I do see him winning 6th man of the year in the future

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

That "millennial" karma......Soon as they started downplaying the greatness of the real GOAT(MJ) and trying to elevate this new model Scottie Pippen(Bron) above him, look what happened.

3 straight Final losses and counting......


All they can do now is romanticize & glorify those 4 years in Miami, but even that version of Bron was filled with moments of "shaky'ness".



This their guy, tho.....every generation is eager to create their own language.....this their guy


I'mma leave em alone.....This my last post on this subject

 

[FlyRy]

At 31/32 Kobe was coming off three finals appearances, two rings and a second dynasty.

At 31/32 Bron is coming off three finals losses in a row and the possibility of his window closing.

that weak ass 09-10 team was no dynasty

 

[CantStop]

that weak ass 09-10 team was no dynasty

3 straight finals, back to back rings is a dynasty. Stay mad

 

[Newzz]

Kyrie Irving is currently averaging 32 ppg, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals on 56.7% TS over the last 2 games...that's what "help" is called.


I'm pissed at LeBron

 

[FlyRy]

3 straight finals, back to back rings is a dynasty. Stay mad

they were barely beating teams. if were honest those lakers just got lucky that a KG and Perkins injury prevented a Celtics 3peat

truly they were some of the weakest title teams of my lifetime

 

[theGoldmangod]

Kyrie Irving is currently averaging 32 ppg, 6 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals on 56.7% TS over the last 2 games...that's what "help" is called.


I'm pissed at LeBron

On top of that JR is playing well (when he gets his opportunities) and Thompson has been huge too. Its sad that the narrative is still that LeBron needs more help because he's getting it. He's just not capitalizing because he's being locked up.

 

[James Dean]

People have been wanting Bron to adjust his game for a decade now. There was a 3 year stint in Miami where he did exactly that but he's regressed back into the old Bron: bully his way to the basket, hold the ball every possession, stagnate the offense when defenses play tough.

He's not going to change. He took the highest amount of layups/dunks as a % of shots in his ENTIRE CAREER this year. That shows me he has no confidence in his jumper.

Never know. Only time well tell brah.

My point still stands that people need to get off the man back. Dead them comparisons and let him have his game and his legacy.