As an Eritrean Afrikan, I was very dissapointed with that West Afrikan - Somali - marriage thread

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Egyptian Civilization.
" According to the Ancient Egyptians themselves , the egyptians came from the Land of Punt, the land of gods,ancestors and even , Queen Hatshepsout of Egypt (15th century B-C) said that Hathor The mistress of Punt ,her mother was from the land of Punt ,from "Buun" the ancient name of Somalia ! To conclude ,"Buun" means in Somali "Horn" and the Land of "Buun" (or Punt in european language) is located in the the Horn of Africa, in the Somali territories, " by Abdisalam Mahamoud . Master II degree: History of Civilisations and Religions.


According to the historian Richard Pankhurst :"""The Egyptians sometimes called Punt land Ta-Netjeru, meaning "Land of the Gods," and considered it their place of origin ." (Richard Pankhurst, The Ethiopian Borderlands:1997) /

My ancestors were not allowed to read. My grandmother grandmother was a slave.


How in the fukk can I read better than you nikkas

Seriously guys we just were allowed to and we go circles around these idiots.


origins of a population isn't the same as civilisation.


Wow.

Also genetics is a thing. Egyptians came from all over Africa and some places in the middle East with back migration.

Stop it.


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Incorrect that is cac BS. the Nile people are the oldest Mesopotamia was a colony
I'm not talking about Hip Hip though. But ALL of American culture from cuisine, religion(yes that too), cowboy/cattle culture, music(we all know this), etc. How does this make us irrelevant?



The early civilizations started in either the Nile Valley i.e Northern Sudan or Southern Egypt or in modern day Iraq/Iran with Mesopotamian. Civilization in the horn actually started very LATE. We first see complex civilization in the Horn with the Axum Kingdom. And if you wanna get technical, there are arguments that Ancient Ghana is much older than civilizations in the horn.
 

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yes they do


@Neal Rigga operates under like 15 aliases and has claimed to be Ethiopian, AA and i think Nigerian. Ignore him/her/it. it's also posted multiple hand "proof pics" of obviously different people
No they don't. They're desperate for validation from the rest of the community. They're punching bags if anything
 

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More recent evidences shows that the Ancient Egyptians came from Sudan and not the Land of Punt. And were nothing more than a Sudanese/Nilotic "transplant." And if you're trying to tie modern Horners to the Ancient Egyptians to claim Horners had the earliest civilization then you're going to have a tough argument ahead of you.
Again you just believe whatever a cac tells you huh? The Egyptians held a trip back to the land of punt. Who knows more about kemet an ancient Queen or modern day cac?
 

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You Horners need to get off spreading this claim... There are older fossils of early humans in Kenya and Tanzania that predate the remains found in Ethiopia. Also the early humans may have not just lived in East Africa, but in southern or Northern Africa.

More importantly you modern Horners were not even around than as the markers unique to modern Horners were nowhere near around during that time, but also the fact that the early humans did not resemble modern Horners in any shape or form.
You real mad. :mjlol:





This nikka using cactales. Everyone know that the Nile river was the real cradle of civilzation. The Sphinx is like 15,000 years old. There was probably kingdoms older than we know. :stopitslime:but the cacs destroyed the evidence:stopitslime:and continue to spread bs.:stopitslime:
 

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My ancestors were not allowed to read. My grandmother grandmother was a slave.


How in the fukk can I read better than you nikkas

Seriously guys we just were allowed to and we go circles around these idiots.


origins of a population isn't the same as civilisation.


Wow.

Bet ya grandmother's grandmother read better than you.

Original question :
Horn of Africans started civilization :umad:


According to the historian Richard Pankhurst :"""The Egyptians sometimes called Punt land Ta-Netjeru, meaning "Land of the Gods," and considered it their place of origin ." (Richard Pankhurst, The Ethiopian Borderlands:1997) /
" According to the Ancient Egyptians themselves , the egyptians came from the Land of Punt, the land of gods,ancestors and even , Queen Hatshepsout of Egypt (15th century B-C)

The people that STARTED the Egyptian Civilization were from HOA, aka they were Horn of Africans. @#SOG_soldier said Horn of Africans STARTED civilization.


Damn you looking real stupid now
 

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Quotes and sources.

And im not the one tying Ancient Egyptians to HOA.

They tied themselves HOA
No they didn't. And if we want to go that route the Ancient Egyptians themselves tied themselves to Central Africa with the Mountain of the Moons claims. But we also know that is NOT true.


"The period when sub-Saharan Africa was most influential in Egypt was a time when neither Egypt, as we understand it culturally, nor the Sahara, as we understand it geographically, existed. Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant." (Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa: Their Interaction. Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa, by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California (1997), pp. 465-472 )[119]

To sum up, Nubia is Egypt’s African ancestor. What linked Ancient Egypt to the rest of the North African cultures is this strong tie with the Nubian pastoral nomadic lifestyle, the same pastoral background commonly shared by most of the ancient Saharan and modern sub-Saharan societies. Thus, not only did Nubia have a prominent role in the origin of Ancient Egypt, it was also a key area for the origin of the entire of the entire African pastoral tradition.
The Nubian Pastoral Culture as Link between Egypt and Africa: A View from the Archaeological Record

The major features of cultural and political development that led to dynastic Egypt originated in southern Egypt during what is called the predynastic period. Some evidence suggests that predynastic Egyptian and early Nubian cultures had ties to the early Saharan cultures and shared a Saharo-Nilotic heritage. Perhaps the earliest predynastic culture, the Badarian-Tasian* (4400 B.C. or earlier, to 4000 B.C.), had the clearest ties to Saharan cultures in the desert west of Nubia.
National Geographic Magazine - NGM.com

“We now recognize that populations of Nubia and Egypt form a continuum rather than clearly distinct groups,” Mr. Emberling writes, “and that it is impossible to draw a line between Egypt and Nubia that would indicate where ‘black’ begins.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/a...ms-of-africa-review.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all&

Like I said you're going to have a hard time finding a cultural/anthropological continuum between Nile Valley civilizations and those from the Horn. People from the Horn weren't even living on the Nile Valley during that time and Nilotic speakers PREDATE anyone on the Nile Valley.

And using the Land of Punt to find some connection between Egypt is moot as the origins of Punt is still heavily debated and some in fact place its origins in Sudan...
 

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You real mad. :mjlol:





This nikka using cactales. Everyone know that the Nile river was the real cradle of civilzation. The Sphinx is like 15,000 years old. There was probably kingdoms older than we know. :stopitslime:but the cacs destroyed the evidence:stopitslime:and continue to spread bs.:stopitslime:
That's where humanity started :comeon:
How about you learn how to read from that thing you call a "brain" instead of screaming "cac this and cac that." You're the one claiming humanity started in the Horn. I wasn't addressing early civilization with YOU, but your claim that humanity started in the Horn when there are many fossils that PREDATE those found in Ethiopia.
 

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Bet ya grandmother's grandmother read better than you.

Original question :



According to the historian Richard Pankhurst :"""The Egyptians sometimes called Punt land Ta-Netjeru, meaning "Land of the Gods," and considered it their place of origin ." (Richard Pankhurst, The Ethiopian Borderlands:1997) /
" According to the Ancient Egyptians themselves , the egyptians came from the Land of Punt, the land of gods,ancestors and even , Queen Hatshepsout of Egypt (15th century B-C)

The people that STARTED the Egyptian Civilization were from HOA, aka they were Horn of Africans. @#SOG_soldier said Horn of Africans STARTED civilization.


Damn you looking real stupid now
:pachaha:

first

what is a "horn of africans" :pachaha:

second how is someone no longer in the horn supposedly horn :pachaha:



third your wrong anyway :pachaha:
 

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No they didn't. And if we want to go that route the Ancient Egyptians themselves tied themselves to Central Africa with the Mountain of the Moons claims. But we also know that is NOT true.


"The period when sub-Saharan Africa was most influential in Egypt was a time when neither Egypt, as we understand it culturally, nor the Sahara, as we understand it geographically, existed. Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant." (Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa: Their Interaction. Encyclopedia of Precolonial Africa, by Joseph O. Vogel, AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, California (1997), pp. 465-472 )[119]

To sum up, Nubia is Egypt’s African ancestor. What linked Ancient Egypt to the rest of the North African cultures is this strong tie with the Nubian pastoral nomadic lifestyle, the same pastoral background commonly shared by most of the ancient Saharan and modern sub-Saharan societies. Thus, not only did Nubia have a prominent role in the origin of Ancient Egypt, it was also a key area for the origin of the entire of the entire African pastoral tradition.
The Nubian Pastoral Culture as Link between Egypt and Africa: A View from the Archaeological Record

The major features of cultural and political development that led to dynastic Egypt originated in southern Egypt during what is called the predynastic period. Some evidence suggests that predynastic Egyptian and early Nubian cultures had ties to the early Saharan cultures and shared a Saharo-Nilotic heritage. Perhaps the earliest predynastic culture, the Badarian-Tasian* (4400 B.C. or earlier, to 4000 B.C.), had the clearest ties to Saharan cultures in the desert west of Nubia.
National Geographic Magazine - NGM.com

“We now recognize that populations of Nubia and Egypt form a continuum rather than clearly distinct groups,” Mr. Emberling writes, “and that it is impossible to draw a line between Egypt and Nubia that would indicate where ‘black’ begins.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/a...ms-of-africa-review.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all&

Like I said you're going to have a hard time finding a cultural/anthropological continuum between Nile Valley civilizations and those from the Horn. People from the Horn weren't even living on the Nile Valley during that time and Nilotic speakers PREDATE anyone on the Nile Valley.

And using the Land of Punt to find some connection between Egypt is moot as the origins of Punt is still heavily debated and some in fact place its origins in Sudan...

Most scholars agree Land of Punt was situated along the northern HOA/Somali coast. Add this with tons of ancient Egyptian artifacts found in Puntland with not alotta excavation.

Source

Also what you quoted doesn't even dispute what I said:skip:Yet yoy acting like it did
 

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first

what is a "horn of africans" :pachaha:

second how is someone no longer in the horn supposedly horn :pachaha:



third your wrong anyway :pachaha:

Horn of Africans are people living in/from Horn of Africa

2. Why do you call yourself AA when youre no longer in Africa :pachaha:


nikka just give up. You wanna argue with the word of the actual Ancient Egyptians themselves along with the word of educated historians and scholars?
 

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How about you learn how to read from that thing you call a "brain" instead of screaming "cac this and cac that." You're the one claiming humanity started in the Horn. I wasn't addressing early civilization with YOU, but your claim that humanity started in the Horn when there are many fossils that PREDATE those found in Ethiopia.
Those are fake
 
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