As far as this Kendrick sh*t goes....

[Momentum]

Until a mainstream rapper jumps on that URL stage, I don't give a fukk about their "battles."

 

[USSInsiders]

nikka WHERE DO YOU THINK EMINEM GOT THAT shyt FROM HE USED TO BE A BATTLE RAPPER IT COMES FULL CIRCLE


jesus omar you just made yourself look dumb



edit: still can't believe you really said eminem like you really had no clue that he came from the battle rap culture

It's clear you either didn't read my entire post or you're not fluent in english. I'm legitimately fearful of your reading comprehension ability based on this response.

You oversimplified the point you're trying to articulate. Your initial post is implying that it's contemporary battle rap, a la Grindtime, URL, etc. that inspired him and this response, but then again, I don't know what your actual point is.

The entire basis of your thread is a tremendous reach is all I'm saying.

Do you truly understand what I wrote in my post? Be honest because I don't think you do.

"This shyt existed prior to the mainstreaming of rap, even before 8 Mile and Eminem"

: what the fukk kind of implication did you take from my post b?

Then again you're all over the place in your first post; your writing is about as lucid as a Death Grips song played backwards.

Competitive minded lyrics have existed for decades and you're acting like it's some new thing. If anything, they haven't been influenced by recent years per your implication, they've been influenced by decades and decades of material and older artists.

I'm not even talking about pure "battle rap" where two grown men recite vitriolic poems at one another; this is just a part of hip-hop the bare bones music by itself.

"Battling" in music goes back hundreds upon hundreds of years, it's a natural element in all kinds of music and in a braggadocio genre like hip-hop, no shyt, you're going to have people "battling" each other.

Tldr: You're giving the recent, contemporary rap leagues way too much credit.

 

[CELL]

I respect the premise of this thread but the way you put your opinion across is fukking stupid.

It's like your social abilities are non existent

 

[obarth]

@T-K-G Battle rap has kept the spirit of competitiveness alive in rap during this whole let's be friends era mainstream rap has had since the mid 2000s. But if there's any inspiration or motivation behind what K Dot did, I think it's shyt like Em on Forever and just the culture of competition in mainstream rap from the 90s. K Dot didn't make this about battling, even though some misconstrue it that way, he made it about competition and trying to murder his peers whether it be on collabs or just his music being better. The overwhelming response from this has been along the lines of saying Kendrick "brought it back to how it used to/supposed be". Plus Kendrick has been murdering nikkas on wax for a while now, he just decided to go ahead and verbally lay out the challenge.

 

[T-K-G]

@T-K-G Battle rap has kept the spirit of competitiveness alive in rap during this whole let's be friends era mainstream rap has had since the mid 2000s. But if there's any inspiration or motivation behind what K Dot did, I think it's shyt like Em on Forever and just the culture of competition in mainstream rap from the 90s. K Dot didn't make this about battling, even though some misconstrue it that way, he made it about competition and trying to murder his peers whether it be on collabs or just his music being better. The overwhelming response from this has been along the lines of saying Kendrick "brought it back to how it used to/supposed be". Plus Kendrick has been murdering nikkas on wax for a while now, he just decided to go ahead and verbally lay out the challenge.

im not saying he's trying to battle all of these nikkas i was talking more about the spirit of competition that he brought, battle rap was the only source for that in rap for a long time and everyone seen how they've been getting bigger and bigger each year(obviously showing that people are interested in competition again) so they deserve some credit for holding it down all of these years

mostly saying that nikkas claiming competition was brought back by kendrick when in fact it never went anywhere, nikkas just wasn't payin attention


i think nikkas just saw the words "battle" and "rap" and took it another way, ignoring the fact that it's all done in the spirit of competition

 

[obarth]

im not saying he's trying to battle all of these nikkas i was talking more about the spirit of competition that he brought, battle rap was the only source for that in rap for a long time and everyone seen how they've been getting bigger and bigger each year(obviously showing that people are interested in competition again) so they deserve some credit for holding it down all of these years

mostly saying that nikkas claiming competition was brought back by kendrick when in fact it never went anywhere, nikkas just wasn't payin attention

True, it never went anywhere, but if battle rap had that type of effect on the mainstream you would think we would have seen something like this last summer when Lux got everyone paying attention to the battle rap culture again. The battling aspect of hip hop is inherently about competition. The musical aspect of hip hop isn't necessarily so. It can be sometimes. That 1 Train track on A$AP's album is an example of where the musical aspect became competitive. Kendrick just came out and said, I'm looking to kill nikkas whenever I put a track out or do a collab. I'm the best, you guys want to challenge that then bring it.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Battle rap is at the highest level it's ever been. Ever. It being ignored speaks volumes about the current state of the culture.

 

[T-K-G]

t if battle rap had that type of effect on the mainstream you would think we would have seen something like this last summer when Lux got everyone paying attention to the battle rap culture again.

that's simple tho

who in the rap game had the rapping abilities,competitive edge,and the record sales + money to back it up?


the reason i said sales and money is because it's exactly like 9th wonder and Guru said, those are the FIRST things nikkas use to cop out of competition "oh that nikka aint sell enough records to warrant my attention" or "man this nikka broke he needs to get his weight up first"

kendrick had to wait until he had both since he was one of the only nikkas good enough rapping wise to make this move imo

The battling aspect of hip hop is inherently about competition. The musical aspect of hip hop isn't necessarily so. It can be sometimes. That 1 Train track on A$AP's album is an example of where the musical aspect became competitive.

i dont agree with that,i think music is just like any other form of art in the sense that even though you want to paint your own picture you also want it to be so good that it pressures your peers to step their shyt up too. everybody wants to be the goat so they should always be competitive


example. you can argue that kendrick putting out a high quality album raised the bar for other rappers, therefore making it more competitive cuz now these nikkas tryna figure out a way to flex their lyrical ability and still be able to sell well like he did. they dont have the excuse of "people dont care about lyrics" anymore

shyt even when kanye dropped 8o8's (im pretending yeezus doesn't exist) you could've viewed it as a challenge to other nikkas to reinvent themselves/try something different and still make it marketable, im positive a shytload of rappers tried to recreate that vibe they couldn't do it

i even remember kanye saying one of the reasons he makes beats is to make other producers wanna kill themselves so you can say that the musical side isn't competitive imo