As much as ya'll hate feminists...

[electric_fur]

lol

getting p*ssy existed before feminism. and the type of nikkas who got p*ssy were getting it before feminism too.


only shyt that changed is that society went to shyt because of feminism. It's not like it created a p*ssy paradise for everyone. the rich got richer and the desert got even more dry for the simps

It's more the other way around. Ladies would be fukking a lot more if men hadn't shamed them into thinking that liking to fukk is bad. I guarantee you, you dudes fukked this up for yourselves. Also religion has a lot to do with it.

We still don't want y'all

at any nikka wifing a slut

Plenty of them do, they're called "whores in the bedroom, ladies in public." A woman is only allowed to act whorish with one man, you see.

 

[CrimsonTider]

most women return to traditional gender roles once they get pregnant anyway lol

my boys wife was working as an chem engineer at bayer, got pregnant, and has been at home for 2 years now. her career has been put on hold. his hasnt

you act as if this wasn't a mutual decision

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

This is not the feminism of today, it's not even 3rd wave feminism.

IS THERE A FOURTH WAVE? DOES IT MATTER? BY JENNIFER BAUMGARDNER

Edit: sorry I just realized you were responding to that person.

Saying that it's part of a different wave doesn't absolve the current political state of feminism from being responsible for influence that it may be feeling from it. You gotta own up to this, especially considering the nature of feminism today.

 

[Kenny West]

It's more the other way around. Ladies would be fukking a lot more if men hadn't shamed them into thinking that liking to fukk is bad. I guarantee you, you dudes fukked this up for yourselves. Also religion has a lot to do with it.

yall feel some type of way after sex for a reason. yall put such high emotional value on sex for a reason. those values set by the "women shaming society" were for your benefit in the end. Yall can fukk as much as yall want, but at some point NOBODY is gonna want to fukk YOU. Ask yall OG feminist generation of lonely batshyt crazy cat ladies rendered unwifeable thru their sexual "liberation".

lol @ the bolded though. I wonder how many of these liberated smuts is fukking the lower class of dudes.

 

[SouthernBelle]

"All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." - Catherine MacKinnon

"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comin

"Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it "Her". Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination." - Andrea Dworkin

"I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire." - Robin Morgan

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." - Robin Morgan

There are many more very influential feminists that I could quote that formed the foundation of feminism. These people are the reason that it's gone off the handle today.

Dude I know about all those. I actually just talked about them in class last week (I don't agree with them); however, I have read enough to know that they are NOT the sole voices in the feminist movement. Just like the black panther party was not the sole voice in the civil rights movement/era (neither was MLK or Malcolm X). One facet of a movement (feminist movement or any other movement) does not define the entire movement and you will NEVER convince me otherwise.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Feminism did to women what Liberalism did to 'Black' people.​

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Dude I know about all those. I actually just talked about them in class last week (I don't agree with them); however, I have read enough to know that they are NOT the sole voices in the feminist movement. Just like the black panther party was not the sole voice in the civil rights movement/era (neither was MLK or Malcolm X). One facet of a movement (feminist movement or any other movement) does not define the entire movement and you will NEVER convince me otherwise.

Being stubborn doesn't make me wrong. I've taken college-level women's studies courses as well, and this kind of thing formed the foundation of the movement. Trying to brush them off as radicals doesn't make this untrue, especially in light of people always trying to push feminism being about gender equality, despite the fact that it's done absolutely nothing to help men who might be harmed by gender roles.

There's a reason they say that societal harms are caused by the patriarchy and the solution to this feminism. They hate men, plain and simple. Not seeing the manipulation of language in this is akin to being willfully blind to it.

Now I know the built-in response is, "Patriarchy hurts men, too!" To which again, I ask, never receiving a response: If it were a patriarchy, wouldn't it not harm men? I mean, if it's hurting men, too, then it's not a patriarchy.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

It's more the other way around. Ladies would be fukking a lot more if men hadn't shamed them into thinking that liking to fukk is bad. I guarantee you, you dudes fukked this up for yourselves. Also religion has a lot to do with it.



Plenty of them do, they're called "whores in the bedroom, ladies in public." A woman is only allowed to act whorish with one man, you see.

You seem to be under the impression that men are the only ones responsible for this standard.

 

[SouthernBelle]

Being stubborn doesn't make me wrong. I've taken college-level women's studies courses as well, and this kind of thing formed the foundation of the movement. Trying to brush them off as radicals doesn't make this untrue, especially in light of people always trying to push feminism being about gender equality, despite the fact that it's done absolutely nothing to help men who might be harmed by gender roles.

There's a reason they say that societal harms are caused by the patriarchy and the solution to this feminism. They hate men, plain and simple. Not seeing the manipulation of language in this is akin to being willfully blind to it.

Now I know the built-in response is, "Patriarchy hurts men, too!" To which again, I ask, never receiving a response: If it were a patriarchy, wouldn't it not harm men? I mean, if it's hurting men, too, then it's not a patriarchy.

Dude you don't know me or what I'm going to say so stop assuming. I am talking about feminism as a movement. You are focused on one facet or aspect.

Again, EVERY movements can have many facets and voices. Feminism is a just like every other movement in history that have had people arguing for different things. To pretend that is ALL feminism is about is disingenuous and if you don't know about or understand the different arguments then there is nothing I can do for you because I'm not your teacher.

Finally, I don't even consider myself a feminist; however, I am open to understanding the nuances in the many different arguments within the movement. You have an agenda (I've seen you talk about feminism a lot on this board). I don't.

 

[Will Ross]

Men never shamed women that like to fukk we just said we don't want anything serious from you. Those women got mad and started to trick other women into being like them so they could gain acceptance.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Dude you don't know me or what I'm going to say so stop assuming. I am talking about feminism as a movement. You are focused on one facet or aspect.

Again, EVERY movements can have many facets and voices. Feminism is a just like every other movement in history that have had people arguing for different things. To pretend that is ALL feminism is about is disingenuous and if you don't know about or understand the different arguments then there is nothing I can do for you because I'm not your teacher.

Finally, I don't even consider myself a feminist; however, I am open to understanding the nuances in the many different arguments within the movement. You have an agenda (I've seen you talk about feminism a lot on this board). I don't.

So I guess that the terms patriarchy and feminism mean nothing, huh?

If you knew who introduced me to this board you would know that your assertion of my having some sort of "agenda" is a blatant falsehood. For the accusations that you lobbed at me, you are assuming quite a bit about me.

 

[Ain't That Something]

Some you nikkas would chop your left nut just to get some p*ssy. I find the notion that as long as people are getting p*ssy everything is find to be quite ludicrous.

 

[Drew Wonder]

Some you nikkas would chop your left nut just to get some p*ssy. I find the notion that as long as people are getting p*ssy everything is find to be quite ludicrous.

I don't think anyone here is saying that. as I said, I'm not making any judgments on whether or not the sexual revolution was a good thing. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of people bragging about benefiting from something that they also claim to hate (ie. men bragging about getting pussy while hating the movement that allowed them to get it so easily)

 

[Turbulent]

Well this is just human nature. It has nothing to do with gender.

yes, i even said that in the part you quoted. it applies to everyone.

again, my main point is that i'm all for freedom of choice. But realize i'm also free to not protect you, help you do stuff you can't do physically, commit and provide for you (even while you're pregnant with my seed), fulfill your emotional needs, etc. I don't have to do any of that. If I do it, it's because i like and love her and because i want to do it. But If you make it harder for me to like you, then I'll be less inclined to do the things mentioned (as i'm also free just like you). If you can do all this by yourself and don't need me for it, that's cool too. At least you're consistent.

Now if you want to pretend like most women don't care about any of the stuff i listed, that's another thing. Also, a lot of women have phases in their lives. That's cool too. I just hope that when you change phases you still have the options you want. If feminist teach you about that freedom and give you the tradeoff and the flipside, then it's a responsible thing and God bless. If they only teach you about the freedom and don't tell you what might happen later on then they're doing you a disservice. Is it true feminism? pseudo-feminism? radical feminism? I honestly have no clue. All i know is that some people are selling their books and culture, some are profiting and some people are miserable because of it. Me I'll just adapt to whatever happens and call shyt the way i see it.

 

[Drew Wonder]

@electric_fur wish you were around when I made this thread

http://www.the-coli.com/locker-room/31445-black-feminism.html#.UQrB_bZVI1I