ASAP Rocky - Industry plant?

[Kilgore Trout]

I used to post on Hypebeast and those dudes from Odd Future would act like they were next before anyone heard of em. Their introduction to the world was carefully orchestrated. I want them to go already the music sucks now.

Anyways if you got money its not that hard. Get sites like pitchfork, vice, spin, hypebeast, and tumblr behind you and youll start a movement. Everyone wants to be the first to discover something.

 

[jwinfield]

Nas... dude comes outta nowhere and releases illmatic

Dude just happens to "connect" with Large Professor

Get a verse on one of the most highly regarded rap albums of all time. Then gets top producers for his debut, at 21. fukk outta here, industry plant.

 

[Zach Lowe]

Nas... dude comes outta nowhere and releases illmatic

failed humor attempt

 

[Rebel Soldier]

Him and Lana del ray have the same people behind them.

Lana del Rey was a failed mainstream pop artist repackaged to appeal to a indie market

Interscope is famous for this they did it with frank ocean too.

Frank ocean was "packaged" with odd future he was already writing for people in the industry prior to being officially signed.

You think kanye wasn't asked and paid to consign Tyler the creators video on YouTube

You think drake wasn't paid to put ASAP on his tour

at you thinking ASAP and Lana just happen to do songs together for no reason, they are packaged together.


Take with it what you want but shill marketing is done heavy for most artist these days and some of your favorite go to bloggers are in on it too.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[jwinfield]

Regarding Lil B as a label plant. I used to play poker with his manager aka Jimmy Iovine's nephew. And he told me they are about to make Lil B the new hot thing with the cooking dance. Now mind you I'm a big hip hop fan and I usually know about all the new trends/movements or w/e but this was well before i had heard anything about "cooking". Sure enough 3 months later I see him doing it and random hip hop sites putting his videos up everywhere.

Does that make him a plant, or is that just his team working, trying to get his name out there.

That's like saying Kriss Kross were industry plants if their manager was the one to tell them to wear their clothes backwards.

 

[labelplant]

Does that make him a plant, or is that just his team working, trying to get his name out there.

That's like saying Kriss Kross were industry plants if their manager was the one to tell them to wear their clothes backwards.

You are right that's why I said regarding him being a label plant, not saying that he was one necessarily

 

[labelplant]

Regarding the whole industry plant situation. I'm still unsure what to say. Certain rappers seem very likely to owe their success to fraudulent buzz and behind the scenes push, rather than actual grassroots movements. However I think a big reason for this term emerging in recent years is because of the whole internet age thing. We know so much about the artists nowadays that if any part of their "come up" is undocumented, in our minds we automatically suspect some kind of artificial tampering.

 

[Zach Lowe]

Him and Lana del ray have the same people behind them.

Lana del Rey was a failed mainstream pop artist repackaged to appeal to a indie market

Interscope is famous for this they did it with frank ocean too.

Frank ocean was "packaged" with odd future he was already writing for people in the industry prior to being officially signed.

You think kanye wasn't asked and paid to consign Tyler the creators video on YouTube

You think drake wasn't paid to put ASAP on his tour

at you thinking ASAP and Lana just happen to do songs together for no reason, they are packaged together.


Take with it what you want but shill marketing is done heavy for most artist these days and some of your favorite go to bloggers are in on it too.

how did i miss this gem

 

[Hersh]

who was the last of the authentic?

 

[jilla82]

They arent plants per say...but I would put money their story is fraudulent.

They are essentially hipster types that know the game. They have their little image, have some knowledge (or knew someone in art school) on how to present an image (i.e. attractive videos that are selling their image), and the right people (other hipsters) liked that shyt and it spread.

Im not going to knock them...but they are the hip hop equivalent of Avril Lavigne selling the image of her being a rock/alternative chick...when she is clearly doing pop music.

Its all marketing.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

basically being called an 'industry plant' is just another way to discredit an artist you don't fvck with. However Rocky is the definition of an industry plant.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

ODDFUTURE
ASAP ROCKY
AZELIA BANKS

These are plants, and you will see further as they flop one after another.

 

[YBE]

Every rapper that's come out in the past 4-5 years are apparently plants.

I've heard:

Drake
Cole
ASAP
Odd Future
2 Chainz
Kendrick
Wiz
Mac Miller
Joey Bada$$
Kirko Bangz
KRIT

KRIT, 2 Chainz, Cole & definitely Wiz are home grown. Wiz been grinding since like 2005. You not an industry plant when it took you 11 mixtapes BEFORE Kush & Orange Juice to get on.

Now Drake. He had connections. Alot easier to build a buzz when you've been on TV, got a couple thousand to your name & a jew uncle with Hollywood connections. Kirko Bangz just sounds like some A&R heard the Drake similarities & forwarded his rolodex; having Juelz & 2Chainz on your remix outta nowhere ASAP is questionable. nikka hasn't dropped more than 2 mixtapes yet but, was on all the blogs/sites last year

It seems like a get rich quick scheme.

Youtube vids + twitter + free mixtapes = 360 deal = why there are 100000 rappers nowadays.

That is not the case. At the end of the day you gotta make music that moves people, and in this internet age where something that came out last week feels like lightyears ago an artist has to find consistency to keep people talking about them. This is why Lil B is killing the game now; his music/style moves his crowd (movement) and he stays in your face. This makes up for the lack of machine behind him. It seems like he films a video every day. Shout outs to BasedGod! Not everyone is blessed with the ability to make trax that move people and very less have the ability to make a catalogue worthy of it.

Ive been doing music since 02; met many celebs and been around plenty labels/major artists. I known the hip-hop grind before Myspace, Youtube. Ive heard Rick Ross in 2001 on the same underground radio stations where my music currently plays. No matter where technology is going the same things have been consistent.

At the end of the day its about good strong/impactful music. Anyone can manufacture a hit/star but that is only short lived. The key is not asking yourself "how do I get in the game?" it is asking "what is going to keep me in the game?".

Once you perfect how you are going to stay in the game; u've already made it into the game.

I'm peeping game

Him and Lana del ray have the same people behind them.

Lana del Rey was a failed mainstream pop artist repackaged to appeal to a indie market

Interscope is famous for this they did it with frank ocean too.

Frank ocean was "packaged" with odd future he was already writing for people in the industry prior to being officially signed.

You think kanye wasn't asked and paid to consign Tyler the creators video on YouTube

You think drake wasn't paid to put ASAP on his tour

at you thinking ASAP and Lana just happen to do songs together for no reason, they are packaged together.


Take with it what you want but shill marketing is done heavy for most artist these days and some of your favorite go to bloggers are in on it too.

Word...that "National Anthem" video just screamed crossover attempt. They knew having some grimey Harlem nikka grabbing some white broad's breasts for 5 minutes would have the internet buzzing & they was right Even I was like

Let's get reality. In what world would Lana Del Rey choose ASAP for a cameo randomly like that?

 

[Zach Lowe]

KRIT, 2 Chainz, Cole & definitely Wiz are home grown. Wiz been grinding since like 2005. You not an industry plant when it took you 11 mixtapes BEFORE Kush & Orange Juice to get on.

Now Drake. He had connections. Alot easier to build a buzz when you've been on TV, got a couple thousand to your name & a jew uncle with Hollywood connections. Kirko Bangz just sounds like some A&R heard the Drake similarities & forwarded his rolodex; having Juelz & 2Chainz on your remix outta nowhere

He was signed before that single dropped so you can't say he had fake indie buzz