this I get now, I haven't been around any italian or irish but europeans have different grooming standards than americans. The closest I can compare are hippy/earthy chicks here in the states, that have a natural odor to them, I wouldn't say it's B.O. they just don't smell like a feminine women.they have a different scent to them. Not sure if it’s from diet or because they don’t spray on as much perfume and use the products that women here in the states do…They have a unique scent. Also a lot of them used to be indifferent to or didn’t shave either. A lot of musty muff called it organic scent.