Me. But my stance was not a simplified “your a jealous incel.”
My argument was that it takes two to tango and that both groups bear responsibility and accountability for the wrong in our community. He believes most black women are the issue and need to be responsible for making better decisions but believes the bm who are contributing to the crime, poverty, absent father rate, drugs etc in our community are few and far between and don’t bear any responsibility for needing to make better decisions too.
We just didn’t see eye to eye and I actually left that little debate because I stopped gaf.
Anyway the consensus is that it’s bw fault. Don’t matter what it is, somehow and some way bw did that shyt.
I hope more of y’all are pawging it up and getting them passports. I want to see more koolaid smiles, two parent mixed families, and bm led mixed communities.
A great deal of black women of our mothers and grandmothers' generation(s) took the dangling carrot of feminism sold to them by white women who were in a patriarchy that black women were never in and government programs designed by white men to replace the need for a black male provider.
This has happened half a century ago or better, it's not that men have no fault, it's the fact the vast majority of us having these discussions are products of this occurrence and it's time to acknowledge that, which also means that all these terrible men floating around are either raised or rewarded by the women.
Just exactly how many drug dealing, crime committing, completely absent father, black men are there? Whether one or all traits combined?
A lot of our issues are a precursor to the dangling carrot I'm talking about but was much less of an option and largely rooted in the natural role men have as agents of the physical realm engineered by God to protect agents of the metaphysical realm (y'all), longgggg before therapy or emotional awareness was a concept for a man, much less sons and mostly grandsons of newly freed slaves. The great-grand and maybe 2x great-grandsons were dealt what I've always said was the death blow of Vietnam.
Wishing for us to pawg and have mixed babies with Kool-Aid smiles isn't a genuine remark. If true solutions are desired in any situation then accountability/fault generally gets identified, quantified, and assigned. And as a civilized species where the female half has the ultimate say on how far a sexual and/or emotional relationship progresses, and specifically down to an ethnicity and even diasporic group within the species where the female half just about always enjoyed (or shouldered) more agency than any of her interethnic counterparts, black men have some, but y'all are assigned more than 50% for your position in the diasporic group being optional and what's the fruit of the tenure.
How much more than 50% is the question.