At The End of The Day It’s On Black Men To Police Our Communities

[HARLEM AL]

How exactly you expect the community to be fixed if you giving answers like that? Or do you not care and young black boys should grow up wandering into white suburbs for better support?

White, Asian, and Hispanic women don't choose wrong.

What's going on with Black women then?

See the problem is you are asking black men this question like they can make a woman do anyything other than what she wants. The issue is you dont want women to get the blame. When its the men fault he needs to fix it. When its the woman fault its how can men make her make the right choice. Its essentially black men fault for her choice making.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Why are you trying to quantify the blame?

It’s a pointless question to ask in the first place because it depends on how you choose to look at it and how far you are willing to go back in history to point the finger.

It doesn’t really matter who shares what percentage of the blame. It’s a deflection tactic used to derail the discussion.

But I CAN tell you that productive black men (the majority) are NOT responsible for the current state of the community.

The percentage of the blame does matter, because that's how you fix the issue. What's the problem and why does the cycle keep repeating?

The other communities don't have the same problem. Why is this only a black issue?

 

[HARLEM AL]

Why are you trying to quantify the blame?

It’s a pointless question to ask in the first place because it depends on how you choose to look at it and how far you are willing to go back in history to point the finger.

It doesn’t really matter who shares what percentage of the blame. It’s a deflection tactic used to derail the discussion.

But I CAN tell you that productive black men (the majority) are NOT responsible for the current state of the community.

Bingo!!!!!

 

[number21]

The other communities don't have the same problem. Why is this only a black issue?

How do you know that?

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

See the problem is you are asking black men this question like they can make a woman do anyything other than what she wants. The issue is you dont want women to get the blame. When its the men fault he needs to fix it. When its the woman fault its how can men make her make the right choice. Its essentially black men fault for her choice making.

I have a ton of posts dating months and years back telling women to choose better and posters calling me a victim blamer. I also have posts saying black women need to get married before kids, so you really not saying anything there.

If you make a claim, then I'm gonna ask you why you think it's that way.

 

[360dagod]

The percentage of the blame does matter, because that's how you fix the issue. What's the problem and why does the cycle keep repeating?

The other communities don't have the same problem. Why is this only a black issue?

Sure they do..they just call it getting re-married lol...

 

[MajesticLion]

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You know what it is.

 

[F*ckthemkids]

You made the claim of black women choosing the wrong guys, so I asked you why.

Why are they attracted to the wrong guys?



So the blame is 100% on black women and black women only?

Women picking the wrong men is basic biology. Biology selects a mate based on the protection provision. When we're younger the playing field is more equal, so the level of protection is set based on who can command the most amount of respect in a given area. So street dudes who flaunt resources and command respect through violence or the threat of violence are extremely appealing to them. Some women grow out of this , but the protection provision just evolves. For the ones that don't they just end up in a cycle of baby mama hood. The reason why so much blame is placed on women is that they ultimately have the right to choose who they let seed them up. They have the final say in every regard. Can't fukk unless she says so. Can't fukk raw unless she says so...Some of us still did it, but most dudes respected when a girl said "don't cum in me.". Not only that a lot of what a woman knows, how she moves, how she approaches life and situations comes from another woman. Mainly those related to her and in positions of authority.

The women who choose right, come from a line of women that chose right. The same goes for the opposite.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I have a ton of posts dating months and years back telling women to choose better and posters calling me a victim blamer. I also have posts saying black women need to get married before kids, so you really not saying anything there.

If you make a claim, then I'm gonna ask you why you think it's that way.

Good solution..... Now, what are you going to do when they dont follow this plan? What are you going to do to stop her from getting smashed. Are you going to to be the super hero to pull that man Johnson out of shorty to protect the black community?

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

How do you know that?

 

[Who Not How]

@Ezekiel 25:17 what answers are you looking for brotha? What was your original question? Was it about why single motherhood is so high in our communities?

 

[V Skyye]

What’s funny is a lot of baby daddies are these “average” men that y’all insist get no play. A lot are your average blue collar, warehouse, UPS, construction worker. And a lot of baby mamas are average office, retail/customer service, social service/medical field workers. There’s a difference between the criminal and working class element. And there’s also a difference between “baby mama/baby daddy culture” and “criminal culture”. There’s people with college degrees having kids without marriage. Men and women.

But on topic, the definition of “community” is more difficult nowadays with people working so long and commuting so much. Working people are tired and don’t have as much time to give back to the community or even have other hobbies. Back in my parents generation, they got married if there was a pregnancy scare and both men and women had to grow up. They also had more parental support because grandmas used to be at home to help. Now grandma still working, and mama and daddy are both doing them. Multiply this for an entire community, plus racism and discrimination, and this is where we are.

 

[The Burger King]

The percentage of the blame does matter, because that's how you fix the issue. What's the problem and why does the cycle keep repeating?

The other communities don't have the same problem. Why is this only a black issue?

You fix the issue by pinpointing the actual issues, finding solutions and holding those responsible accountable so that they don’t make the same mistakes again.

When we have a discussion about a topic as complex and nuanced as the current state of black America and the demise of the black family unit, we cannot easily quantify the blame because we have been attacked on all fronts since we were put on boats and brought over here.

Some could blame racism, because white racism led to black disenfranchisement, which led to black families seeing welfare as an easy way out of poverty as a result of redlining, which led to the destruction of black nuclear family.

Others might go as far as to blame Africans for selling us to Europeans and putting us in this situation in the first place.

Again, it’s pointless to try and sit here and quantify the blame because it depends on who you ask and how far back in history that person wants to go.

And whether or not they want to view our situation on a micro or macro level.

But, again, the current status of the black community TODAY cannot be blamed on productive, hardworking black men who are the majority.

It is a deflection to attempt to put a percentage on who is and isn’t to blame.

 

[Who Not How]

What’s funny is a lot of baby daddies are these “average” men that y’all insist get no play. A lot are your average blue collar, warehouse, UPS, construction worker. And a lot of baby mamas are average office, retail/customer service, social service/medical field workers. There’s a difference between the criminal and working class element. And there’s also a difference between “baby mama/baby daddy culture” and “criminal culture”. There’s people with college degrees having kids without marriage. Men and women.

But on topic, the definition of “community” is more difficult nowadays with people working so long and commuting so much. Working people are tired and don’t have as much time to give back to the community or even have other hobbies. Back in my parents generation, they got married if there was a pregnancy scare and both men and women had to grow up. They also had more parental support because grandmas used to be at home to help. Now grandma still working, and mama and daddy are both doing them. Multiply this for an entire community, plus racism and discrimination, and this is where we are.

First paragraph is very insightful. Why do you think Black people as a collective no longer view marriage as a necessity to building a family together? Look at many Black celebs, they don't even get married anymore but got kids everywhere.

 

[Brolic]

So the blame is 100% on black women and black women only?