At The End of The Day It’s On Black Men To Police Our Communities

[Gritsngravy]

This an interesting thread cause most people shytted on umar in that umar thread about black men abandoning the community, but you could argue the insta clip is basically saying the same thing umar said

Is it oochie wally or one mic

 

[Iverson_64]

Women want the baby and they'll figure out the rest later..

And that means it's gonna be a collective effort amongst the government,,grandma/sis/auntie and whatever men that are in her radius...

They get all the baby daddy duties while the actual baby daddy just gets cursed out from afar lol..

I got a female family member out of a jam her boyfriend got her into and she did exactly what I expected her to...

Cry and go right back to him...

She been making "mistakes" since a teen...

I let someone else play Jesus out here lol

But you do agree that it takes two to tangle right?

Also, the very thing you speak of could be resolved by both parties prioritizing marriage from the get go before having kids.

If a man is slinging his dikk around to random thots in the street and having kids out of wedlock, he's already putting himself in a vulnerable position.

That's another thing that doesn't get talked about much on here: how avoiding marriage and having kids out of wedlock puts both the parents and the kids in a vulnerable position.

 

[V Skyye]

First paragraph is very insightful. Why do you think Black people as a collective no longer view marriage as a necessity to building a family together? Look at many Black celebs, they don't even get married anymore but got kids everywhere.

I’m not really sure but I think the change started for economic reasons and are now more of economic and cultural reasons. Younger people got married when pregnant because their parents and community expected it. Then came the 1990s where kids started to raise themselves, crime went up, drug use out of control, and then the breakdown of the family structure and the community as a whole. Things got better since then, but there’s still a culture of having kids with anybody. And this is not just poor and uneducated people doing this. It’s truly wild.

 

[Iverson_64]

What's funny too is that I could snitch and post comments from some TLR posters sounding WORSE than divestors when Black homicide statistics come out and get posted on here.

You got "pro-Black" posters claiming that Black men should stay away from other Black men and that we're too unstable to be around each other. This is literally the same garbage that divestors spew verbatim but, suddenly in this thread, they want to say that only Black women create problems in the Black community lol.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

Just Monday I broke up a fight between middle schoolers. They were off school grounds but one of the parents came and got me to let me know one of them was getting jumped. Broke it up, the kids scrambles etc...Another parent had their phone out recording. Dont you know one of those lil nikkas said something crazy to her. Me and someone else caught it. I Told lil homie you aint going to do shyt all while looking him dead in his face. I was so tight, I was about to make a call.


P.S. And yes I was protecting a black woman

I Told lil homie you aint going to do shyt all while looking him dead in his face. I was so tight, I was about to make a call.

shoutout to you for continuing to do what you do. At least ONE of these boys will remember your voice and actions and know that’s how you suppose to navigate the world as a man.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

5+ pages of arguing with dudes who make it a habit to argue in bad faith lmaooo.

 

[Who Not How]

I’m not really sure but I think the change started for economic reasons and are now more of economic and cultural reasons. Younger people got married when pregnant because their parents and community expected it. Then came the 1990s where kids started to raise themselves, crime went up, drug use out of control, and then the breakdown of the family structure and the community as a whole. Things got better since then, but there’s still a culture of having kids with anybody. And this is not just poor and uneducated people doing this. It’s truly wild.

It is wild.

Check out these graphs I've found.

Seems like we have higher marriage rates in states with less Black people. The states and cities most Black people are moving to, their marriage rates have decreased since 2005-2009. No state down south saw an increase in the Black marriage rate since 09.

What is it about living in areas with less Black people that make them get married more?

 

[RaspberryFitted]

You know what? this is a amazing point that I selfishly never considered

I’ll be a little less negative

Definitely. They exist

They’re also multidimensional, just like brehs are too. We in this thread speaking passionately about the community but also have our own vices and pitfalls

when it comes to BW, some brehs either seem them as the worst of the worst or angelic creatures.

 

[GilSho]

The black community is long dead. Black men and women can continue to point the finger at whoever they believe is the root behind it's demise. But the damage is irreparable at this point.

Witnessing the deviants Gen X raised come into fruition was the final nail in the coffin. I thought there was a glimmer of hope after the wave of black consciousness in the early-mid 2010s but turned out to be mostly performative.

That's why you got the emergence of divestors who believe dating out will help them become married women and live easier lives, and the Manosphere nikkas who think non-BW are more feminine, co-operative and attractive.

This idea that a group of like-minded brothers can still salvage what's left of the community is a joke.

 

[Who Not How]

The black community is long dead. Black men and women can continue to point the finger at whoever they believe is the root behind it's demise. But the damage is irreparable at this point.

Witnessing the deviants Gen X raised come into fruition was the final nail in the coffin. I thought there was a glimmer of hope after the wave of black consciousness in the early-mid 2010s but turned out to be mostly performative.

That's why you got the emergence of divestors who believe dating out will help them become married women and live easier lives, and the Manosphere nikkas who think non-BW are more feminine, co-operative and attractive.

This idea that a group of like-minded brothers can still salvage what's left of the community is a joke.

Exactly. These fake ass "Trayvon Martin's death woke me up about racism" pro-Black dudes been off the bandwagon. nikkas left with Donald Glover.

Black people went from the BLM era straight into gender wars and c00ning all over social media.

 

[Braman]

I know y’all mean well but it’s funny af when y’all lazily drop somethin thinkin y’all kickin knowledge. Man dropped a Roc clip!

 

[V Skyye]

It is wild.

Check out these graphs I've found.

Seems like we have higher marriage rates in states with less Black people. The states and cities most Black people are moving to, their marriage rates have decreased since 2005-2009. No state down south saw an increase in the Black marriage rate since 09.

What is it about living in areas with less Black people that make them get married less

That is interesting. Maybe there’s more sense of sticking together for survival when there’s less black people around, so marriage is a means to create a community. I can especially see this for professionals who relocated and are without a real support system.

 

[Shadow King]

"Our" lol

 

[Braman]

I used to work in international aid. The main reason these ‘change the black community’ initiatives and think pieces fail is this: when you are aiming for systematic, lasting change, you need to aim at 20, 30, even 50 years from now. Anyone or anything already embedded in the system you’re trying to change can’t be reached.

Black folk think too nearsided. You’re not reaching adult men. You’re not even reaching teenagers. Not enough for wholesale change. You almost gotta ‘sacrifice’ the current generation and lay the foundation for the future ones.

EYL is a great example of this they got their break teaching financial literacy to elementary/middle schoolers

 

[Will Ross]

the issue is the men women choose to follow.
Until that changes nothing will be fixed