At this stage of his career, Does a ring do anything for Russell Westbrook's legacy?

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I feel like Dwight Howard was in a similar situation in that he couldn't win as the man, gets older, declines a bit but still finds a way to be a valuable contributor on a championship team. He eventually won with the Lakers but I don't think anybody really gives a fukk. It's not a Gary Payton ring, he actually played valuable minutes but still I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things.


If the Nuggets win it all, does it do anything at all for young Sabo's legacy :jbhmm:



if so, I think it confirms rings only matters if you are THE man on the championship team. But then this sparks other debates because what do you do with a Jaylen Brown, who was just as important if not more important than "the man" Jayson Tatum?


Also, Im not sure Scottie Pippen would be remembered as fondly (still a great player) without those rings. I know this is a lot to dissect but I don't think nikkas are doing the knowledge when it comes to these rings arguments. There's plenty nuance that dumb nikkas skip over to fit their own agenda
 

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I don’t know if it does anything for his legacy but I’m sure it would mean the world to him on a personal level. He’s been told u can’t win with Russ since damn near the 2012 Finals if not before that.
 

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CANT COMPARE HIM TO
DWIGHT BECAUSE HES
A MORE IMPORTANT PIECE TO THIS TEAM

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While I agree Westbrook is more important to his team, I disagree in that yes you actually can compare the two.



Dwight split the responsibility with Javale McGee which is the literal only reason I feel Westbrook is more important to his team. Still, we have 5 years of evidence of what the Lakers look like without a proper big man at Center. Russ is more important to his team, but both are still just filling a role on a team with multiple clearly more important pieces. In regards to the rings argument the difference is negligible and therefore very much so comparable.
 
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championships are a function of multiple moving parts coming together:

players
coaching
upper management

players are only in control of one of those things

why yall insist on acting like players are the only part of the puzzle never ceases to amaze me

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Absolutely. Klutch tried to assassinate this guy via McMenanmin in the media calling him a vampire and shyt.
The general sentiment from people that think it will mean anything seems to just be on a personal level. On some "what they gone say now" type shyt. This thread is referring to the rings argument as in using it to rank one player over another. Who will Westbrook pass on the all time list that he wouldn't have without a ring? Maybe I should've phrased the question like that in the first place but that's absolutely what I meant.


I don't think a ring would make him a better player than someone he already isn't. Rings should only count in that context if you're THE guy on the team. Think about it, as much as Kyrie did to earn his, even his doesn't elevate him over anybody he wouldn't be over without one.



Do people even have Kyrie over Stockton??
 
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Is Russ a greater player than Kidd?

How about Nash?

Payton?

A ring would change his stature among top 10 point guards of all time.

Considering there are people calling him Westbrick, and one of the stars of all time.
 

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The general sentiment from people that think it will mean anything seems to just be on a personal level. On some "what they gone say now" type shyt. This thread is referring to the rings argument as in using it to rank one player over another. Who will Westbrook pass on the all time list that he wouldn't have without a ring? Maybe I shouldn't phrased the question like that in the first place but that's absolutely what I meant.


I don't think a ring would make him a better player than someone he already isn't. Rings should only count in that context if you're THE guy on the team. Think about it, as much as Kyrie did to earn his, even his doesn't elevate him over anybody he wouldn't be over without one.



Do people even have Kyrie over Stockton??
Think it's easier to make an argument Russ had better career than some of the other ringless guys with a ring. Like does a ring out him ahead of cp3?
 

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The general sentiment from people that think it will mean anything seems to just be on a personal level. On some "what they gone say now" type shyt. This thread is referring to the rings argument as in using it to rank one player over another. Who will Westbrook pass on the all time list that he wouldn't have without a ring? Maybe I shouldn't phrased the question like that in the first place but that's absolutely what I meant.


I don't think a ring would make him a better player than someone he already isn't. Rings should only count in that context if you're THE guy on the team. Think about it, as much as Kyrie did to earn his, even his doesn't elevate him over anybody he wouldn't be over without one.



Do people even have Kyrie over Stockton??
:dwillhuh:
 
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