At what point do we admit that Jay-Z simply has a better ear for making SONGS than Nas?

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Nas just sounds tone-deaf like 80% of the time.

I mean come-the-fukk on.

Same flow, same out of sync bullshyt, it seems like he doesn't write to the beat but he writes before he hearts the beats, his metaphors are so hamfisted and direct you can't even enjoy the joy of a metaphor, etc.

I mean...come on!

I LOVE Nas.

I like what he has and does represent. Absolutely.

But Jay is just on another level with the swagger, metaphors, similes, experience, and knowledge.

Jay can tell you the same thing, in fewer words, and it mean 4x as much. And you KNOW its true.
 
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I think Jay's predominate subject matter makes it easier for Jay to do those things than Nas, and since Nas is more of a long winded multi-syllable rhymer than Jay, he's not going to be able to float over beats/switch his style up the way Jay can over this like Go Crazy when he's making projects like Untitled (which I believe had some of Nas's best songwriting, he got much shorter with his verses and upped the creativity).
At this point in time I just have to admit that his song writing style largely isn't for me, like with that new Khaled song compared to Jays verse (though I think Nas had a fantastic chorus), where I'll have to put up with stuff that seems like rambling pseudo intellectual nonsense to get to a few bars I can rock with.
When Nas gets it he really gets it though.
 
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Nah he just can rap about mainstream things and has had access to the best producers in the game
 
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Yagirlcheatinonus said:
Jay can make better Club/dance/banger/anthem type songs but concept/storytelling/ overall cohesive albums is Nas.
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yeah, as a Kid I enjoyed Jay more and looked at Nas like how I see J Cole now, but when I got older I was actually able to understand Nas's music and think he is the better Rapper. That said I`m grown and still cant get into J Cole.
 
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I'm a Nas stan but I wouldn't deny that. But let's be real: Hov has been trash for years now, moreso than Nas. He's the one out of sync with beats now.

But a few years ago sure, Hov was clearly making better songs and albums. The Black Album came out a year before Street's Disciple. Both rappers were essentially in their prime at the time. One dropped a near classic, the other dropped a bad album full of beats that baffle me to this day. HHID and Kingdom Come came out the same year and were misfires to me. Then Hov dropped American Gangster and Nas dropped Untitled. Again a huge, stark contrast in the quality of production and songs. And I don't even fukk with American Gangster like most people, but overall as a product it's well put together. I think Nas released the superior album in 2012, compared to Hov's 2013 release which was trash. But even there Hov had better beats.

I really don't understand how you go from the greatest collection of producers ever, then to Trackmasters...to Dame Grease and Salaam Remi. That shyt doesn't make sense to me, given the budgets Nas had and the fact that every dope producer wanted to work with him.
 
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