Atheists and fellow Agnostics, what are your thoughts on Simulation Theory?
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including you.
what?
I've NEVER presupposed the "who"
Where did you get that from?
I'm not interested in a "who" unless it becomes evident that theres one present.
eh. its fun to talk about but come to me when there is actual evidence/proof.
godly is just a term.... it doesn't have to be a being..... We can call it the universe. Regardless the central theme always goes back to designer of the code.
Which is why Tyson responded.... "so what ur saying is there are entities that ... blah blah"
However, cooky scientist who spit these baseless theories... always fall back like dude on the video did --because they don't want to start leaning on any - pseudo intelligent design concept. Period. Seriously, that's what this nikka is talking about... this isn't the only time he's spit it.
NTM, You're assuming madd stuff about what I think:
1) that I don't think of cells as intelligent forces.... they are madd intelligent. and if we wanna mention my bias, I'm Islamic; a single cell being super intelligent is part of the package and ideas of Islam.
2) Intelligence is a way of personifying. Well there is artificial intelligence with computing, and obviously chemicals can be intelligent because chemicals lead to our subconscious.
3) I deal in data intelligence and analytics in my career - programs doing shyt that basically no human can do. Bias again - is that there are Madd Muslims world wide in that shyt, obviously the personification of Intelligence isn't in that bias. The rest of the mf's are Hindu Indians..... so most people in it are religious in some sort of way.
4) You miss the part where dude only speaks of atoms, cells, matter n shyt. What about all the rest of the stuff? AKA the stuff that actually pulls everything together? The shyt we can't see and are only recently beginning to explore all these hidden particles in science... Where's the math patterns with all that stuff. There isn't any.
Plus look up the word simulation. Have we ever observed a simulation without a intentional force behind it??? I'm just wondering. Because even if the math is running things without a force then the original mode to have inanimate simulations would have had to be created int he first place.
So Neil Tyson says “Not only do we live among the stars, the stars live within us.”.. Regardless of the atheist or religious bias that u wanna assume.... this idea is always more true than these foolish and baseless theories..
Let's have some intellectual honesty here, friend. This is just my opinon but..... Only the most intelligent scientist talk this. It's because once you begin to explore the laws of the universe there is no Way you can still believe in God or intelligent universe. ..... . But then once you get to level these guys are on ... you see other shyt you see hidden shyt , you notice a force .... but you can't acknowledge it for the same reason people will not let go of ancient wack religious beliefs. So in turn you come up with looney ideas about similation theory. But luckily the Most reasonable of scientist like Neil aren't co-signing.
No, only for you
He's not humanizing the entities. We know that in string theory, at the quantum level we have these vibrating energy sources. He's just not using a formal scientific term hear.
No. And that's why I pulled out the quote that I did. When the guy said, "what you're presenting sounds a lot like previous theories about math and the universe." James Gates Jr immediately replies and says, "for some of us, its about finding the most accurate way to describe the universe." That is the whole point of the discussion. That is the whole point of science. We're just trying to DESCRIBE shyt without DEFINING its cause BEFORE we have EVIDENCE. He never said, "we know for a fact that we're a computer code." He said, "wow this is very interesting, I'm studying it, you guys should follow my research."
1/2 & 3 deserve the same answer. You specifically said, "being or intelligent force." Being. or. intelligent force. You've already linked the two and say I'm assuming things about you lol.
4…we've been trying to figure out the "Theory of Everything"
This is the infinite regression argument all over again…..
I don't understand how you can use this argument, and then deem a creator necessary
What? Are you advocating agnosticism 4 paragraphs after reaffirming that you were Islamic (which we know). I follow Neil a lot. He actually doesn't get in depth with string theory ever. He knows it. He gets it. But he prefers to have the real experts speak on it. This goes for youtube videos and his podcast.
Its a ridiculously complicated concept. In all the videos I've seen, the theorist always say that they still have to prove to their work to scientist.
I find this shyt just as silly as the fables in the bible. Then again I think most philosophy is nothing more than smart dudes fapping to each others thoughts, to validate their poorly directed intelligence, in an attempt to separate themselves from us simple folk.
Ever lurked this philosophy forum?
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/
Some (not all) of the most disgusting elitists I've ever seen are on here. They think they are somehow above the "masses" and no one else can comprehend their intelligence. They think posting on a philosophy forum about the usual philosophical questions is revolutionary, and no regular person has ever contemplated these topics.
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I know you said a whole bunch........but 99% is basically just opinion and debatable.
1) The solution of scientist it seems.... is to not figure Everything, but to ignore the 'unknown' that pulls together atoms, matter, and cells.
2) If you pay attention...... I always advocate agnosticism... ever since sohh.
it's the only thing i fully get behind because Atheism makes zero sense and is idiotic. Most athiest are that way for 'reasons' not logic, and most are weird or depressed. but Most religions don't make sense.
I'm Islamic because thousands of years ago my ancestors in Africa laid the groundwork for arab culture, then later converted from a ancient religion, to a Islam/ancient combo. ntm, Islam is healthy and practical. ... plus I do believe in a creator of the universe. And many black Muslims are considered c00ns because of white arabs and their slavery- but Africans have some rituals that date back so idk how it's c00nish.
Also, cells are intelligent forces..... developed by intelligent force because we have no bases to believe that non-animate matter or unintelligent shyt could have produced to first cells.
Also, even if the universe is a hologram or simulation--- someone is the architect of that.
