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I think a lot of people view god as some big father figure in the sky that fixes all your problems when you ask, and so people get angry at him like hes some sort of absentee father

I don't view the creator that way is all:yeshrug:
I think the "Creator", should there actually be one, has done a poor job convincing his creation of his existence. Leaving them grasping at straws in the form of various religions through out the world... :yeshrug:
 

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Why do you think youre able to comprehend and conceptualize the bold when youve never experienced it?

How can "nothingness" be eternal? Thats almost an oxymoron
I don't know. I imagine it's like how your mind blanks during a blackout. Except it never ends. Comprehension likely won't even factor into it since your brain no longer functions, you simply stop being.
 

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I think the "Creator", should there actually be one, has done a poor job convincing his creation of his existence. Leaving them grasping at straws in the form of various religions through out the world... :yeshrug:
THERES NO CONFUSION WHATSOEVER IN THE WORLD ABOUT THE ETERNAL CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS.

LOOK IN YOUR OWN BODY, THATS ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED


Were they created without any agent? Were they the creators?
Did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are utterly uncertain.

-Sura At-Tur, Ayah 35 36
 

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I don't know. I imagine it's like how your mind blanks during a blackout. Except it never ends. Comprehension likely won't even factor into it since your brain no longer functions, you simply stop being.
SO YOUR BRAIN WAS ABLE TO SOMEHOW ACQUIRE CONSCOUSNESS AFTER BEING A SPERMEGG COMBO AND YET YOU DONT THINK IT CAN HAPPEN

EVERY NIGHT YOU SEE WITHOUT USING YOUE EYES ANS HEAR WITHOUT EARS AND SPEAK WITHOUT MOVING YOUR LIPS, AND YET YOU HAVE DOUBT THAT YOU CAN BE RECREATED?
 

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I think the "Creator", should there actually be one, has done a poor job convincing his creation of his existence. Leaving them grasping at straws in the form of various religions through out the world... :yeshrug:
Nah, you just have an extremely narrow view of what the creator should be, based on your own experiences

Youre projecting your own mindset onto a being on an entire tier above us

Its not ever really fully possible for the created to understand the creator imo

My belief in god comes from a place of logic and rational thought. Its completely independent from any current organized religion
 

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THERES NO CONFUSION WHATSOEVER IN THE WORLD ABOUT THE ETERNAL CREATOR OF ALL THAT IS.

LOOK IN YOUR OWN BODY, THATS ALL THE PROOF YOU NEED


Were they created without any agent? Were they the creators?
Did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are utterly uncertain.

-Sura At-Tur, Ayah 35 36
I can't accept an all powerful being that thinks the best way to reveal himself to his creation by having an angel relay his message to a chosen man who would then spread the word...
 

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I can't accept an all powerful being that thinks the best way to reveal himself to his creation by having an angel relay his message to a chosen man who would then spread the word...
AND YET HERE YOU ARE BEING PRIVY TO THR MESSAGE 1500 YEARS AFTER THE FACT THAT HE SAID IT WOULD REACH THE WHOLE WORLD
SEEMS LIKE IT WAS PRETTY EFFECTIVE STULLLL
 

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I don't know. I imagine it's like how your mind blanks during a blackout. Except it never ends. Comprehension likely won't even factor into it since your brain no longer functions, you simply stop being.
Yeah but your body is still functioning during a blackout

We know that consciousness exists outside of the physical body because it goes somewhere when we sleep then it comes back when we wake up

If consciousness exists outside of the body in sleep then theres a good chance it doesnt just disappear in death
 

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Nah, you just have an extremely narrow view of what the creator should be, based on your own experiences

Youre projecting your own mindset onto a being on an entire tier above us

Its not ever really fully possible for the created to understand the creator imo


My belief in god comes from a place of logic and rational thought. Its completely independent from any current organized religion
How do you know he exists, as well as him being incapable of helping us understand him? Surely he must possess some ability to aid in this if he's capable of all these great things.
 

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AND YET HERE YOU ARE BEING PRIVY TO THR MESSAGE 1500 YEARS AFTER THE FACT THAT HE SAID IT WOULD REACH THE WHOLE WORLD
SEEMS LIKE IT WAS PRETTY EFFECTIVE STULLLL
Being privy doesn't make it true.

Theres Greek literature that predates the Quran that we're all familiar with. Does that make it true?
 

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How do you know he exists, as well as him being incapable of helping us understand him? Surely he must possess some ability to aid in this if he's capable of all these great things.
Just like i said in the other thread, the suns motion, the dna strand and the concept of consciousness all prove intelligent design

You have to look at our existence like a perfectly balanced system

Any divine intervention in any direction would likely throw the system completely off and destroy it
 

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Being privy doesn't make it true.

Theres Greek literature that predates the Quran that we're all familiar with. Does that make it true?
NO BUT IT DOES MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT HAS VALUE TO HUMAN BEINGS AND HAS AN ELEMENT OF TRUTH TO IT. THE QURAN IS SIMPLY THR FINALIZATION OF THAT TRUTH

THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE IS AS FOLLOWS

He sends water from the sky that fills riverbeds to overflowing, each according to its measure. The stream carries on its surface a growing layer of froth, like the froth that appears when people melt metals in the fire to make ornaments and tools: in this way God illustrates truth and falsehood- the froth disappears, but what is of benefit to man stays behind- this is how God makes illustrations.

-Sura Ar-Ra'd, Ayah 17
 
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