ATHEISTS, WHAT ABOUT LOVE...?

[nineteeneightysix]

What is the difference between the ideas of Love and God....?

(1) Both cannot be proven by any scientific experiment...

(2) Both are VERY inconsistent in their definitions and characteristics...Depending on your race, culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality and personal identity...

Essentially, they can both be defined in a billion different ways...

(3) Also, when criticizing Christianity Atheists enjoy to point out how Christianity has changed over the years, how it borrowed from this and that...

But the same is true about Love...It has gone through so much social evolution...Because that is EXACTLY what it is, a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT...

(4) Still, Atheists believe in Love, despite the lack of evidence to support that it even exists....

(5) So, Atheists, what is Love and why do you believe in it, despite the fact that it can never be proven to exist...

 

[CHL]

It's a word used to describe and represent feelings and emotions you have for someone. What are you talking about?

 

[toomanydoses]

God isn't provable. Can you prove we don't live in a hyper realistic alien simulation like second life..... You cant but that AI system would have all of the attributes of a god but wouldn't be.
Point being its not on me to disprove god, I can't and there are options you maybe haven't thought of.

Love is a flush of hormones and chemicals that bond you to somebody very quickly, that's it in my mind. Love is an emotion, am I missing how this is linked to religion.

BTW brain scans of ppl in love differ drastically from ppl not in love. Very similar to scans of ppl high on cocaine... Actually very provable unlike god

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

'Love' is a comprehensible human experience. 'G-d' is not.

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What is the difference between the ideas of Love and God....?.

(1) Both cannot be proven by any scientific experiment...

the sensations of "love" can be explained in understanding human biochemistry and neuroscience

(2) Both are VERY inconsistent in their definitions and characteristics...Depending on your race, culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality and personal identity...

Society imparts behaviorial influences....and?

Essentially, they can both be defined in a billion different ways...

(3) Also, when criticizing Christianity Atheists enjoy to point out how Christianity has changed over the years, how it borrowed from this and that...

Which means christianity doesn't value any of the "objectivity" It claims

But the same is true about Love...It has gone through so much social evolution...Because that is EXACTLY what it is, a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT...

Cool. So christianity is also bullshyt too?

(4) Still, Atheists believe in Love, despite the lack of evidence to support that it even exists....

Not believing in a god doesn't mean i'm a fan of golf either.

Its completely unrelated

(5) So, Atheists, what is Love and why do you believe in it, despite the fact that it can never be proven to exist..

"love" is an emotion represented by a series of physiological responses and neurological states.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

'Love' is a comprehensible human experience. 'G-d' is not.

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says the believer

 

[tmonster]

What is the difference between the ideas of Love and God....?

(1) Both cannot be proven by any scientific experiment...

(2) Both are VERY inconsistent in their definitions and characteristics...Depending on your race, culture, ethnicity, religion, nationality and personal identity...

Essentially, they can both be defined in a billion different ways...

(3) Also, when criticizing Christianity Atheists enjoy to point out how Christianity has changed over the years, how it borrowed from this and that...

But the same is true about Love...It has gone through so much social evolution...Because that is EXACTLY what it is, a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT...

(4) Still, Atheists believe in Love, despite the lack of evidence to support that it even exists....

(5) So, Atheists, what is Love and why do you believe in it, despite the fact that it can never be proven to exist...

this is the cutest shyt I've read all day
do me a favor and edit in "amirite" at the end

 

[the cac mamba]

poor threadmaking

 

[Madvillain]

bushes

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

 

[acri1]

 

[nineteeneightysix]

"the sensations of "love" can be explained in understanding human biochemistry and neuroscience"

(1) There is NO proof of that...

I watched documentaries were researchers select people who claim to be in "love" and run some MRIs and claim that they identified something...

Those interpretations are flawed...Humans experience pleasure and pain (feelings) and we have moods/emotions...(on a side note; there are differences between feelings, emotions and moods)...

These experiences are a result of biochemical reactions in our brains...These things have been proven...Feelings, moods, and emotions exist regardless of "Love"...

It is almost the same as an Atheist saying "right and wrong exist in the absence of God"...

When another human/animal/thing make you feel welcomed sensations, you may become ATTACHED to that human/animal/thing, because your brain releases some powerful neurochemicals to create an association between those welcomed experiences and that human/animal/thing...

To say you "Love" that human/animal/thing you actually have to THINK about it...At best "Love" is a thought process...It is a way of thinking in a positive manner (usually) about a human/animal/thing that has brought you positive feelings/moods/emotions at some point of your interactions..

(2) Let's say you want to run an MRI to see the biochemistry of "Love"...You select people who claim to be in "Love"...You put them in the MRI...Take images...Then you show them images of a child being raped and murdered...Take images...

Intuitively, we can say that the brain images would look different before and after the child abuse images...Assuming they do, what happened to the "Love" they were experiencing before the child abuse images...

(3) We don't even need to go that far...If we take a father who claims he "Loves" his 16 year old, but also has a favourite car, and we ask the child to damage that car...When the father sees his child damaging that car, if we could take an MRI of the brain at that moment, will it match the images of "Love"? are we going to see parts of "love" lit up and superimposed with parts of "hate"....?

There is no way of proving "Love"...Unless you define "Love" as a syndrome of feelings, emotions, moods and thoughts towards another human/animal/thing...

And that is VERY vague...Similar to saying "God is all around us"...

But where is the PROOF....?

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Society imparts behaviorial influences....and?
(1) Any definition that is not universal CANNOT be the truth...The biochemistry of pain is consistent across cultures...Generally speaking of course...Yes, some people may have differing thresholds, but when a human being is in physical pain, we pretty much know which processes are occurring...

That's how we have drugs to treat pain regardless of your race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, religion, nationality and etc...GENERALLY speaking of course...

(2) "Love" on the other hand doesn't have any specific biochemically pathway...The presence of pleasure, happiness, attachment , and etc is NOT proof of "Love"...

You can be in "Love" and be in pain (emotional and physical)..."Love" is not consistent with any given set of feelings/emotions/moods...It just how one CHOOSES to THINK...

Which means christianity doesn't value any of the "objectivity" It claims
Dude, Christianity is a fairytale for grownups....If you believe in Jesus, you might as well believe in Fairy dust....Don't worry, I am preparing a thread to terrorize Christianity...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Not believing in a god doesn't mean i'm a fan of golf either. Its completely unrelated
God and Love are concepts...Ideologies...Theories...Thought processes...
So, it is NOT a reach to use the scientific method to evaluate them...

God is a concept, golf is a sport...For the most part, people don't use golf to know, understand and explain the world around them...But Love and God are constantly used...Sometimes interchangeably by some people...

"love" is an emotion represented by a series of physiological responses and neurological states.

(1) Love is NOT an emotion...

(2) For the past six months, I have been working in Mental Health Ward...A mother can say "I love my daughter" but because she is in such a manic state, her behaviour may not be congruent...

So, a wife may say "I love my husband very much" but be in a major depressive state...

(3) So then, my question becomes what "physiological responses and neurological states" are UNIQUE to Love...?

 

[88m3]

this is just exceedingly bad...