No true scotsman. I fit the definition you posted an hour ago. GTFO
No you don't really, but I am not in a position to judge who YOU feel you are, I am simply stating my impression of you, which is one of no stance. That's MY stance, take it how you want it
Okay fine. I thought I made it clear by saying I was an agnostic atheist but okay. I don't think the question of whether a god exists is known by mankind ... and most likely unknowable, at this time. And what I mean by to know something is some kind of observed phenomena or other manifestation in reality that can be confirmed by others. Something that would be world altering if you found out it wasn't true. Knowledge is a subset of belief, and when it comes to god claims, I don't believe they have met their burden of proof ... in that there is little to no evidence to support the claims of any holy book or clergy person I'm aware of. I can almost understand a deist or pantheist view of god... nature being god, for example. But, I mean, that's poetic and beautiful, but that's just relabeling something we already have a name for.
tl;dr -- There's no good reason to think some supernatural entity, that watches over us and is all powerful & good, could or does exist.
Ok, agnostic atheist got it. Using your (with all due respect) "wish washy" rubric, I would be a an Gnostic Theist, why, because I believe there is a God, a Designer, and I know he exists because of his Designs. Now I can't be sure if God is a man/woman/buddha/Osiris/whatever, but I am sure of it because of all the entities that exist on this planet in relative harmony. That's my observed phenomena, using simple modular logic: A) It is obvious computer has a designer B) brain is more complicated than a designer C) it is obvious the brain also had a designer. With all that said I get your position now. You don't believe God exists, but you don't claim to know that to be true, you just haven't seen enough evidence to refute your beliefs. I don't know how you can see the laws of gravity in effect with the rising and subsiding of ocean tides relative to the position of the moon and that not be enough evidence of intelligent design, but hey, that's your right
Listen, I don't know your life, nor am I saying you are living it wrong. I'm just pointing out that there are some that would say you aren't following his principles if you are the mindset that there are other ways to salvation. That might call you weak, spineless. So you should probably chill with the name-calling.
No, If I believe in Christ, then I believe he is the only way to salvation FOR ME.
2 Thessalonians 3:11-18 ESV
For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living. As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good.
If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
^^^If you don't want to follow God's rules/regulations, that's on you. My Christian duty is to tell you what the Bible says out of concern for your soul, AS A BROTHER. I can tell you that this is what Jesus says, and at the same time state that this is what I believe, but I don't believe YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS TO BE SAVED, I believe I have to follow this to be saved. That's not the same thing as saying "I don't believe in God, but who knows, he may exist", it's a self contradicting sentence. I am saying "I believe in God, I believe he exists, but I am not in the position to tell you that you HAVE to do this to be saved. But this is what my God says, and if you want, you are welcome to join me on the path to righteousness". If you want, you can do it, and if you don't want, well that is your right as a human being of free will.
I'm not sure what you're saying here, so let me be clear. An atheist doesn't have a belief in gods. That's my stance, not whatever you're trying to make it into
I never accused you of doing this, I don't know why you keep bringing it up.
Hmm, technically there's a slight misconception in your statement. A true atheist DOESN'T BELIEVE GOD EXISTS. Not necessarily believing in Buddha, and emphatically stating that I don't believe there is a higher power/intelligent designer/God in existence are not one and the same. Atheism is a clearly defined belief, a belief that there is no God, you are merely stating some sort of viewpoint. It's amazing how theists are so clear in the points, yet you as an "atheist" of sorts has a muddy definition of your own idealogies.
The bolded technically would make you agnostic, not atheist.
No, it would not. Did you not look at the infographic? Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive. Agostic isn't this middle ground you think it is. Do you not understand the difference? You posted the definitions yourself!
Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive to someone with no stance. You believe but you don't believe. I get it. But in reality, agnostic = someone who believes he doesn't know anything to be true, and atheist = someone who believes God doesn't exist. They are not one and the same. I want to say you're confused, but I'm going to refrain from ad hominems. I'm going to say that while I respect you somewhat defining your stance with the rubric, in fact, you are saying you are two things at the same time. That would be like me being a Christian santeria.
Okay, I don't know why you call it God gene, since you don't need a god belief to have conscience or morals. These beliefs aren't determined by my atheism. There isn't an atheist set of beliefs. That's where you're confused.
No I'm not confused. I extrapolated to show how in fact atheism is really a religion like any other religion, it's just never been expounded upon/developed. I can say I believe in the sun and leave it at that, or I can do like the Mayans and build temples and have priests and sh*t. But it's still a faith like any other. No, you don't need to believe in God to have a conscience/set of morals. BUT THE FACT THAT YOU DO innately have these attributes attest to some entity placing something in you that isn't in any other creature. Thus "God gene". It's my own fabrication, but I feel it's a good way to describe the attributes that in my opinion are a testament to an intelligent designer
No, formulating beliefs is not what atheism is. You posted the damn definition a few posts ago. It said NOTHING about formulating beliefs, did it?
I don't understand exactly what you think I think since you're wording it so strangely. "You don't believe in God but you don't necessarily believe there is no God"? No, I don't know if there is a god(s), but I don't believe any exist.
I don't have to state "I am formulating a belief" in order to be doing so. If I say, because the sky is gray, it will rain, I have formulated a belief unconsciously. YOU my Coli breh are the one who are wording things strangely. If you don't believe any God exists, by default you think there are no Gods. Again, I can't define you, you are your own person, but to me you are an agnostic if that's the case, someone who just claims he doesn't know something to be true. These convoluted positions are contrived from intentions to confuse IMHO. Most of the famous atheists clearly went out of their way to discourse on how God doesn't exist, I'm not sure they would look at your "stance" in a positive light, since you clearly are stating that you are not sure if there is a God or not, which in essence means you're not an atheist, because an atheist is SURE God doesn't exist. That would be like me saying I believe in Christ but I don't know if he really existed, Christians would be looking at me like

Anyway breh, this is going nowhere, you're clearly an "agnostic atheist", meaning someone who doesn't believe God exists, but at the same time recognizes that there may be a chance God does exist, which is why you don't want to explicitly state you're an atheist. How you see that as taking a stance is beyond me, but do you playboy
