Athletes with a better 1st 8 seasons than Ohtani?

Samori Toure

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Good call. How about Larry Bird?
3 MVPs
8 time All NBA
8 time All Star
2 time Finals MVP
3 time NBA Champion
2 time 50/40/90 member
Kareem Abdul Jabbar' first 8 seasons

Rookie of the Year
4 MVPs
8 time all star
6 all defensive teams
1 NBA championship
2 scoring titles
1 finals mvp (I am not sure when the award was created)
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Hell naw

4 unanimous mvps and 2 rings

4th in Cy young. That is equal to Pat forcing and recovering two fumbles after a fumble or pick
Hell naw? It's easily Mahomes. 2x MVP, 3x Super Bowl MVP, 5 Super Bowl apps. Worst season in his career at the minimum is an appearance in the AFC Championship game.

Ohtani's 4 MVPs are misleading because he doesn't have to compete against the entire league for them.
 

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Hell naw? It's easily Mahomes. 2x MVP, 3x Super Bowl MVP, 5 Super Bowl apps. Worst season in his career at the minimum is an appearance in the AFC Championship game.

Ohtani's 4 MVPs are misleading because he doesn't have to compete against the entire league for them.
Ohtani also missed the playoffs his first six seasons and went to a stacked Dodgers team to finally make the playoffs.
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Hell naw? It's easily Mahomes. 2x MVP, 3x Super Bowl MVP, 5 Super Bowl apps. Worst season in his career at the minimum is an appearance in the AFC Championship game.

Ohtani's 4 MVPs are misleading because he doesn't have to compete against the entire league for them.
That is a great point that no one talks about. Baseball MVPs are only half the league. Only sport.that does that..How many more MVPs would MJ or Bird have it it was just the Eastern Conference? Brady/Manning would have alot more if it was just the AFC they had to.beat for MVPs.
 

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That is a great point that no one talks about. Baseball MVPs are only half the league. Only sport.that does that..How many more MVPs would MJ or Bird have it it was just the Eastern Conference? Brady/Manning would have alot more if it was just the AFC they had to.beat for MVPs.
The way baseball media glazes him, they'd still give Ohtani league MVP over everyone else.
 

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That is a great point that no one talks about. Baseball MVPs are only half the league. Only sport.that does that..How many more MVPs would MJ or Bird have it it was just the Eastern Conference? Brady/Manning would have alot more if it was just the AFC they had to.beat for MVPs.
Yep. That's why you got completely random guys winning them in baseball all the time. He'll probably still have at least 3 but he doesn't win any of them unanimously given the best hitter of his generation is also in the league.
 

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Hell naw? It's easily Mahomes. 2x MVP, 3x Super Bowl MVP, 5 Super Bowl apps. Worst season in his career at the minimum is an appearance in the AFC Championship game.

Ohtani's 4 MVPs are misleading because he doesn't have to compete against the entire league for them.

That's actually a very good point about the MVP's.
 

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Roger Federer, first 8 years

8 Grand Slam titles
45 Singles titles


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:banderas::wow:
 

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That's a good answer.

He turned pro middle of 96. So we can just start with 97.

He introduced himself to the world winning the 97 masters.

2000 was just domination. Achieved the Tiger slam. Embarrassed the field at the 2000 US Open.

By 2005 8 years into his career he had 10 majors and won 61 tournaments.

That's an insane accompolishment:wow:
 
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