Atlanta Falcons fire Mike Smith

[Richard Wright]

Who said he needed that? Look around the league. QBs are making a shytload of money regardless.

Look at how stacked Seattle's defense is with Russ on his rookie contract. Once Matt Ryan makes that much there simply isnt enough room to pay enough good defensive players. This is why teams who sign guys like cutler and stafford , overpayed 'franchise' qb who simply wont be able to carry a team that starts with a 20 million dollar hole in the cap, to 100 million dollar contracts will never win.

The blueprint is an elite defense, while taking advantage of easier passing rules and the rookie wage scale to have an effective qb. The reason teams pay so much for the franchise qb is to keep people coming to the games. There is no reason to think its a winning strategy.

With that said, no way one can blame the way that falcons team has been built on matt ryan. He is who we thought he was.

 

[Xerces]

Look at how stacked Seattle's defense is with Russ on his rookie contract. Once Matt Ryan makes that much there simply isnt enough room to pay enough good defensive players. This is why teams who sign guys like cutler and stafford , overpayed 'franchise' qb who simply wont be able to carry a team that starts with a 20 million dollar hole in the cap, to 100 million dollar contracts will never win.

The blueprint is an elite defense, while taking advantage of easier passing rules and the rookie wage scale to have an effective qb. The reason teams pay so much for the franchise qb is to keep people coming to the games. There is no reason to think its a winning strategy.

With that said, no way one can blame the way that falcons team has been built on matt ryan. He is who we thought he was.

yep. This whole organization is a mess. The only people that get exempt are the rookies-4th year players everyone else is a problem imo

 

[iamstr8fire]

How come the offense scored 0 points against the giants in the playoffs?

How come the offense scored 0 points in the 2nd half again the 49ers in the NFC championship

In the Cleveland game some weeks back, how come the defense was getting turnovers and the offense wasn't doing anything with it?

Why did the offense check out of the playoff game against the Green Bay before halftime

A couple years back on Thursday night football the defense intercepted Drew Brees 5 times, yet the Falcons only won by 10

Why does the offense consistently disappear in the 2nd half of games?

Why didn't 7th year Matt Ryan check out of a pass play when they should of ran a running play against the lions. They had no time outs

Matt Ryan hasn't always have atrocious lines, not saying they were all pro either but I'll tell you what he has always had and that is weapons and that is before last and this year.

This offense was built to be the one that carries the team. they don't. Most of the money is on that side of the ball making it tough for the organization to sign any decent quality people.

Like Sam Baker Thomas screwed up giving just a " good qb" so much money. He doesn't deserve it.

Russell Wilson Doesn't have that great of a line and his number 1 receiver is 65th out of the entire league and if it wasn't for his ability to extend plays would be getting sacked like Matt Ryan, yet Wilson is Swimming in playoff victories and has a super bowl and is in the midst of making another run at the super bowl and he's only in his 3rd year. But but but but Russell has a Defense. Yep he does but when they whooped the Cardinals 35-6 all those points came off offense

Ryan is ehh and will always be ehh

Well at least you admitted that you just dont like Matt Ryan at the end which is all I ask from most folks. You can pick out anomalies in offensive performance if you want but that still doesn't prove a point over the long term. I could sit here and hit you with 'how come the defense didn't.....' ALLLLLLLLL DAY, but nobody wants to read that.

I do agree with you that Ryan needs to check out of bad plays more often. It seems like he either doesn't have the liberty (which would be odd) or the confidence. Either way he needs to put us in better position. The issue on the Falcons isn't the big money on the offensive side of the ball. It's that we don't scout and draft talent well under Dimitrov.

I don't even know why cats bring up Russell Wilson in a conversation like this. His organization drafts and develops talent as a front office should. Of course he's the 'model'. And I guess we are shrugging off the fact that Russell plays with an incredible defense now??

 

[iamstr8fire]

Look at how stacked Seattle's defense is with Russ on his rookie contract. Once Matt Ryan makes that much there simply isnt enough room to pay enough good defensive players.

Nope try again.


In 2012 the Seahawks DRAFED 2 of their current defensive starters

1. Earl Thomas
2. Kam Chancellor

In 2011 the Seahawks DRAFTED 4 of their current defensive starters

1. KJ Wright
2. Richard Sherman
3. Byron Maxwell
4. Malcolm Smith

In 2012 the Seahawks DRAFTED 3 more starters

1. Bruce Irvin
2. Bobby Wagner
3. Russell Wilson

That teams construction has nothing to do with how much Russ is making and everything to do with them drafting killers on D.

 

[Xerces]

Well at least you admitted that you just dont like Matt Ryan at the end which is all I ask from most folks. You can pick out anomalies in offensive performance if you want but that still doesn't prove a point over the long term. I could sit here and hit you with 'how come the defense didn't.....' ALLLLLLLLL DAY, but nobody wants to read that.

I do agree with you that Ryan needs to check out of bad plays more often. It seems like he either doesn't have the liberty (which would be odd) or the confidence. Either way he needs to put us in better position. The issue on the Falcons isn't the big money on the offensive side of the ball. It's that we don't scout and draft talent well under Dimitrov.

I don't even know why cats bring up Russell Wilson in a conversation like this. His organization drafts and develops talent as a front office should. Of course he's the 'model'. And I guess we are shrugging off the fact that Russell plays with an incredible defense now??

This offense is not allowed anomolies especially anomolies that involves them not scoring for long periods of time to them not showing up at all. This defense was neglected because this terrible front office thought Matt with enough toys could get the team to a superbowl. He's in his 7th year hasn't done it, he lacks common sense,still making terrible mistakes and is not a leader. He is getting payed big money, like Smith people will realize he will NOT take the Falcons to the super bowl.

Maybe just maybe that Same gm and coach you claim aren't good at scouting snd developing talent got Matt wrong as well

 

[yseJ]

people will say atlanta doesnt have defense, which is true and been true.
but no one will want to say WHY they dont have defense

if the team didnt have matt ryan does dimitroff really trade a whole draft for julio ?
matt ryan and that packers loss is the whole damn reason dimitroff had delusions of grandeur and tried to build an offensive juggernaut, further depleting the defensive talent.

its funny how I and anyone with football sense envisioned this a couple of years ago. people really think a qb in place really makes the team more stable
except a couple of years ago ATL fans thought it was all shyts and giggles and building a defense was easy, and that they were a play or two away from being contenders funny how that worked out. still no NFL caliber defense, roddy got old, the oline is garbage good luck climbing out of that hole.

the only thing left to do is for dimitroff do the same thing again and trade a whole draft for another offensive player, 'building around' julio and ryan

 

[Xerces]

people will say atlanta doesnt have defense, which is true and been true.
but no one will want to say WHY they dont have defense

if the team didnt have matt ryan does dimitroff really trade a whole draft for julio ?
matt ryan and that packers loss is the whole damn reason dimitroff had delusions of grandeur and tried to build an offensive juggernaut, further depleting the defensive talent.

its funny how I and anyone with football sense envisioned this a couple of years ago. people really think a qb in place really makes the team more stable
except a couple of years ago ATL fans thought it was all shyts and giggles and building a defense was easy, and that they were a play or two away from being contenders funny how that worked out. still no NFL caliber defense, roddy got old, the oline is garbage good luck climbing out of that hole.

the only thing left to do is for dimitroff do the same thing again and trade a whole draft for another offensive player, 'building around' julio and ryan

Even though it wouldn't happen, that's why 3 to 4 year players can stay and I would even be mad if everyone else including the owner got the

 

[iamstr8fire]

This offense is not allowed anomolies especially anomolies that involves them not scoring for long periods of time to them not showing up at all. This defense was neglected because this terrible front office thought Matt with enough toys could get the team to a superbowl. He's in his 7th year hasn't done it, he lacks common sense,still making terrible mistakes and is not a leader. He is getting payed big money, like Smith people will realize he will NOT take the Falcons to the super bowl.

Maybe just maybe that Same gm and coach you claim aren't good at scouting snd developing talent got Matt wrong as well

Like I said Matt Ryan isn't our problem but for now I'll go along with it. We gonna blame the teams drafting strategy over the course of Dimitrovs tenure (O and D) on Ryan too?

I suppose we can blame their strategy of picking up over the hill free agents on Ryan too.

Like I said earlier Ryan is far from perfect, but he is far from a problem on this roster.

Again, just say you don't like Matt Ryan

 

[Xerces]

Like I said Matt Ryan isn't our problem but for now I'll go along with it. We gonna blame the teams drafting strategy over the course of Dimitrovs tenure (O and D) on Ryan too?

I suppose we can blame their strategy of picking up over the hill free agents on Ryan too.

Like I said earlier Ryan is far from perfect, but he is far from a problem on this roster.

Again, just say you don't like Matt Ryan

on offense yes. He felt he needed to draft julio and give up those picks for Ryan. Steven Jackson was a terrible pick that of course isn't on Ryan and I wouldn't put that on him anyways. As far as players drafted can we honestly say a lot of Dimitroffs players have been busts case and point we saw what this guy can do if given the ball in open space, yet he only played on special teams and rotted on the bench, now how many other players could that be said about. Thomas Dimitroff needs to go for giving Sam Baker a big extension off of one year, paying Matt Ryan super bowl qb when he hasn't done anything worth writing home about and not firing Mike Smith after the Giants playoff game.

Matt Ryan isn't THE problem this whole organization is screwed up but he is apart of the problem and if you don't see that he is apart of the problem seeing what he's payed and the fact he's had weapons his whole career and in his 7th year and still making dumb mistakes .......Then I don't know what to tell you

 

[iamstr8fire]

on offense yes. He felt he needed to draft julio and give up those picks for Ryan. Steven Jackson was a terrible pick that of course isn't on Ryan and I wouldn't put that on him anyways. As far as players drafted can we honestly say a lot of Dimitroffs players have been busts case and point we saw what this guy can do if given the ball in open space, yet he only played on special teams and rotted on the bench, now how many other players could that be said about. Thomas Dimitroff needs to go for giving Sam Baker a big extension off of one year, paying Matt Ryan super bowl qb when he hasn't done anything worth writing home about and not firing Mike Smith after the Giants playoff game.

Matt Ryan isn't THE problem this whole organization is screwed up but he is apart of the problem and if you don't see that he is apart of the problem seeing what he's payed and the fact he's had weapons his whole career and in his 7th year and still making dumb mistakes .......Then I don't know what to tell you

Well we agree on everything except Matt Ryan. I can accept that. Everybody has an opinion.

 

[Rebel Soldier]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ould-be-key-to-falcons-front-office-stability

This article

Blank better not hire McDaniels to accommodate Dimitroff and freaking Pioli.

 

[Born2BKing]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ould-be-key-to-falcons-front-office-stability

This article

Blank better not hire McDaniels to accommodate Dimitroff and freaking Pioli.

No way in hell they hire him

 

[360dagod]

has Julio jones ever played a full season?

I remember hearing he has had foot injuries since college..

 

[AVXL]

And again, b/c of the market for starting QBs you were going to HAVE to pay Matt Ryan 100 million dollars. Either you do it or you let him walk, which at the time wouldn't have made sense b/c you had just made the NFC Championship game. For all the criticism of Matt (a lot of it is valid) his contract is not what has doomed the Falcons especially when you see that his contract was structured into more guaranteed money up front so that his contract is more flexible on a year by year basis. You can still build a good team around a high paid QB (ask Dallas, or Green Bay or Denver or NE). Falcons have to build a team not just a QB/WR passing attack

 

[AVXL]

This just in:

Falcons owner Blank making clear new coach has say in GM spot

Kevin Patra
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The Atlanta Falcons are already searching for a head coach to replace the departed Mike Smith. General manager Thomas Dimitroff's job still isn't all that safe either.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported on NFL Network's GameDay Morning that owner Arthur Blank has told people the new head coach will have a say in the future of the GM, according to a source who has spoken to the owner.

Until that coach is in place and until the organization decides they are a match, Dimitroff's fate hangs in the balance, Rapoport reported.

It's not a shocker to anyone who watched Blank's press conference following coach Smith's dismissal. The owner wouldn't provide assurances about the GM, who was sitting right next to him on the dais. It was an awkward scene, but clearly Blank was making a point.

Dimitroff is a two-time NFL Executive of the Year and respected within many scouting circles.

Whether Blank's message to coaching candidates is indication of a forthcoming parting of ways or a reshuffling of front office duties remains to be seen. But it is clear that the Falcons' owner isn't sitting idly by and is willing to take any steps to get the coach he desires.

It only makes sense that Dimitroff's fate be tied to Mike Smith's. Dimitroff BUILT this team over 7 years. It hasn't worked. Let him go