Atlanta is trading Dejounte Murray to the New Orleans Pelicans, sources tell ESPN.

[jdubnyce]

 

[The God Poster]

The pelicans are in no position to trade talent for ‘fit’, let alone a ‘big’ in a climate where there are none. Also when Nola has been healthy they’ve been a top seed in a crowded west at certain points the last 2 years. They have hella upside

Dejounte- Herb-BI-Zion- C. CJ as 6th man. Murphy and Hawkins shooters off the bench. That core is as good as any in the west. Just need another role player big which isn’t that hard to find.

It’s as if people didn’t learn anything from Dallas and Minnesota. Neither of those teams were projected anywhere near the top, and neither are that much more talented than any other. They just found the right fit around their stars

Someone with sense

Either move CJ or put him on the bench. Pelicans with avg PG play were night & day. It tells me CJ being the pg was the main issue.

 

[DetroitEWarren]

i still think moving Ingram is a huge mistake

you think Murray is going to be enough to help take down the Celtics?

edit:unless they trade him for a rim protector who can shoot.

Brook Lopez would make them the best roster in the NBA if Z can stay his big ass healthy.

nikkas want to talk about elite talent. Out of all the great rookies the NBA has had over the last few years, Luka and Zion are the only 2 to hit the ground running. They are the only 2 who walked into the league dominant.

That level of a player can win with a 2 way player and play maher like Dejunte and all the damn shooters NO has.

A 3 and D center makes this team the best roster in the league.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

The pelicans are in no position to trade talent for ‘fit’, let alone a ‘big’ in a climate where there are none. Also when Nola has been healthy they’ve been a top seed in a crowded west at certain points the last 2 years. They have hella upside

Dejounte- Herb-BI-Zion- C. CJ as 6th man. Murphy and Hawkins shooters off the bench. That core is as good as any in the west. Just need another role player big which isn’t that hard to find.

It’s as if people didn’t learn anything from Dallas and Minnesota. Neither of those teams were projected anywhere near the top, and neither are that much more talented than any other. They just found the right fit around their stars

 

[DetroitEWarren]

You keep trying to move goalposts to now avail. Having an all star nod under your belt under 30 is an indicator of talent. So you’re like clay. Its something a new team can work with; give you a lesser/different role and thrive

-Porzingis- ‘only’ one all star nod, also years ago. Seen as a negative asset. But then him as your #3, instead of your #1, was/is a cheat code.

-Jrue holiday. When he signed with the bucks was a…1 time all star. Had never won shyt. But tasked with a lesser role, they won a chip

-Andrew Wiggins. Not even an all star, but was universally seen as a losing type of player. But tasked with less, he thrives and GS wins a chip.

Same logic applies to dejounte and BI. Surrounded with more, tasked with less, it could make them and the team better

That’s why I say you nggas are useless. You have no foresight whatsoever your only skill is downplay, critique, Monday morning QB. You bring nothing to the table regarding actual hoops knowledge

nikka, BI is not a talent on that level. nikka game is effective, but he's awful without the ball. He doesn't spot up for 3's, struggles against good defenders, never looked for Zion in the post or rolling to the basket, ect.

CJ is legit one of the worse passing guards in NBA history, he is tunnel vision +5. But his catch and shoot game was ELITE last year. He fits perfectly with this team off the bench. BI DOES NOT FIT.

 

[Flight]

They need to flip CJ for a 5

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Murray is one of the most overrated players on the league and he does nothing for teams but that haul Atlanta got is weak af

The Spurs were contending for playoff spots with DM being the only good player on the roster .

Most of the players from those teams went elsewhere and thrived. He is much better than Derrick White and has had successfully seasons winning as a #1 option.

 

[Akae Beka]

Good for the Hawks. Let the Spurs get a top 5 pick next year from them. Draft Nolan Traore and slide Castle to the 2 or three

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Someone with sense

Either move CJ or put him on the bench. Pelicans with avg PG play were night & day. It tells me CJ being the pg was the main issue.

A $30 million dollar 6th man off the bench sounds like a waste of resources and money that could be used elsewhere

 

[CantStop]

@Braman getting exposed as a casual

 

[Braman]

nikka, BI is not a talent on that level. nikka game is effective, but he's awful without the ball. He doesn't spot up for 3's, struggles against good defenders, never looked for Zion in the post or rolling to the basket, ect.

CJ is legit one of the worse passing guards in NBA history, he is tunnel vision +5. But his catch and shoot game was ELITE last year. He fits perfectly with this team off the bench. BI DOES NOT FIT.

You nggas wanted to break up 3 of the last 4 teams in the playoffs this year They won 50 games last year ya goofy ass talking bout HE DOESNT FIT. Just silly

Lastly yall see something that’s not ideal and want to quit. 24/7 news cycle babies. Tatum and JB redundancy was not ideal. They won a chip. Rondo, Bron, AD, and dwight starting was not ideal. Won a chip. Bron and wade was not ideal. I could go on. Yall should just sit back and front run that’s what you’re good at

 

[DetroitEWarren]

You nggas wanted to break up 3 of the last 4 teams in the playoffs this year They won 50 games last year ya goofy ass talking bout HE DOESNT FIT. Just silly

Lastly yall see something that’s not ideal and want to quit. 24/7 news cycle babies. Tatum and JB redundancy was not ideal. They won a chip. Rondo, Bron, AD, and dwight starting was not ideal. Won a chip. Bron and wade was not ideal. I could go on. Yall should just sit back and front run that’s what you’re good at

DM is a 22-24 7 and 6 type of nikka with elite defense. Teams with a historically great player and top level role players are better than 2 scorers that don't fit and ok role players. If they keep Ingram they are still a great team, if they can flip him for a 3 and D big and pg depth, it's the best team in the league on paper.

50 games was cool last season, the team was MUCH better when BI was hurt or on the bench. Night vs day type of comparison. Why go out of your way to do that shyt again when you can completely fill out the roster. Z is a 30ppg type nikka, makes no sense to put a fukking mid range scorer who can't get him the ball as his #2. Murphy and Hawkins can both end up having multiple years over 18ppg and they both are ELITE catch and shoot players, Matt Ryan too. They have no bigs that can shoot. I would move Ingram for that ALONE and keep cap space. They are an elite team on paper with Ingram or role players in his place.

 

[Braman]

DM is a 22-24 7 and 6 type of nikka with elite defense. Teams with a historically great player and top level role players are better than 2 scorers that don't fit and ok role players. If they keep Ingram they are still a great team, if they can flip him for a 3 and D big and pg depth, it's the best team in the league on paper.

50 games was cool last season, the team was MUCH better when BI was hurt or on the bench. Night vs day type of comparison. Why go out of your way to do that shyt again when you can completely fill out the roster. Z is a 30ppg type nikka, makes no sense to put a fukking mid range scorer who can't get him the ball as his #2. Murphy and Hawkins can both end up having multiple years over 18ppg and they both are ELITE catch and shoot players, Matt Ryan too. They have no bigs that can shoot. I would move Ingram for that ALONE and keep cap space. They are an elite team on paper with Ingram or role players in his place.

I can appreciate this type of breakdown. We all know all this. We all know his flaws. The problem is, the league knows it too. So owners are going to soft collude and not give Nola a dime for BI. See Zach Levine. So give me a sample player and trade scenario for BI. This the 3rd time I’ve asked folk to name me specific players. I’m still waiting

So in this scenario, you might as well keep him. The things they need are added on the fly, practically for free. See PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Donte divencenzo. None of these players were acquired for anything of substance. So WHY would you trade BI for ‘role players’. Especially when they already got Alvarado, Hawkins, Murphy, herb. How many more role players you need??

What they need yes is a shooting 5. Ok well where they at?!? And are you gonna need to trade Brandon Ingram to get him?!

I had a similar convo with my homie about a similar asset Julius Randle. He and everybody else was saying trade him. I said ok, for who?! He’s not ideal, but it’s better to keep him and change his mindset, give him a new role. NY did just that. They added MORE around him to the point he’s now one of many options. You reduce your dependence on him. That’s how you make BI work

 

[DetroitEWarren]

I can appreciate this type of breakdown. We all know all this. We all know his flaws. The problem is, the league knows it too. So owners are going to soft collude and not give Nola a dime for BI. See Zach Levine. So give me a sample player and trade scenario for BI. This the 3rd time I’ve asked folk to name me specific players. I’m still waiting

So in this scenario, you might as well keep him. The things they need are added on the fly, practically for free. See PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Donte divencenzo. None of these players were acquired for anything of substance. So WHY would you trade BI for ‘role players’. Especially when they already got Alvarado, Hawkins, Murphy, herb. How many more role players you need??

What they need yes is a shooting 5. Ok well where they at?!? And are you gonna need to trade Brandon Ingram to get him?!

I had a similar convo with my homie about a similar asset Julius Randle. He and everybody else was saying trade him. I said ok, for who?! He’s not ideal, but it’s better to keep him and change his mindset, give him a new role. NY did just that. They added MORE around him to the point he’s now one of many options. You reduce your dependence on him. That’s how you make BI work

Somebody like Middletown would work and the money works out, if you can get him and Lopez that's a huge win.

Turner from Indiana, Ingram fits perfectly in Indiana but probably wouldn't resign there. shyt, Lavine would be a good swap straight up while you playing lol, but they would still need that 3 and D big.

 

[firemanBk]

The Spurs were contending for playoff spots with DM being the only good player on the roster .

Most of the players from those teams went elsewhere and thrived. He is much better than Derrick White and has had successfully seasons winning as a #1 option.

"Contending for playoff spots"
They were 14 fukking games under the only year he was their best player