Australia is not where I remember it to be

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The logical explanation here is definitely that the fabric of time and space has ripped and we've entered an alternate timeline where Australia is farther north and movie scripts have been altered. Definitely a more sound explanation than the maps being inaccurate.

You really think I want this shyt to be true?

I have no idea how this happened. Or why it happened. I'm just 100% confident that I know what I remember and I remember a time when the fukkin continent of Australia was thousands of miles south of Papau New Guinea and Indonesia. I have no clue what this new Australia is. I have no clue what happened. I have no clue how I got here.

I'm just sure of this as I am sure of my name. And there are thousands (if not millions) of others who have the same memory as I do. And are as sure as I am. So please explain that? How could so many of us have the same exact memory of a reality you claim is just something we misremember?
 
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My man, anything is possible, but we know nothing in this world, and assuring urself that u are certain of things like this is affirming what very well could be an extremely dangerous delusion in ur mind. I'd recommend taking a step back and approaching this situation with far more restraint.

It ain't just me. I've already tested my immediate family members and had 2 out of the 3 remember Australia exactly as I do as well as many of the other smaller Mandela Effects like logos and movie lines. I was just introduced to this phenomenon a few days ago. Before that I wasn't really paying close to attention to things like the world map. I mean why should I expect what I have known my entire life to all of a sudden change. Since then I've been scouring the net for more information on this phenomenon and there are many others who have the same memories as I do of this other reality. And are as sure as I am that it was real.

So please explain how so many of us could have the EXACT SAME MEMORIES?

We all remember a world that looked different. And we agree on those differences. The major ones being Australia being thousands of miles north from where we remember. But another major geography difference we agree on is the fact that South America is now shifted thousands of miles to the east. In the reality I remember, South America was positioned more directly below North America (instead of this new southeastern position). The nation of Panama that is today a horizontal nation was a vertical nation in my reality. And I remember the Panama canal running horizontally from east to west. While in this reality, the Panama Canal now runs from northwest to southeast.

I remember the Panama Canal like the guy in the video below. Not the way it currently exists in this reality.

 
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No, he didn't admit they found parallel universes: he claimed it. No evidence was offered. Just an utterance by a man. I haven't seen anything to support his claim. If you have, please post it.

No. He said his quantum computer works because it exploits the existence of parallel universes. Its impossible to "find" a parallel universe since by definition it is beyond this space time. But he did say that the mechanism by which his machine works is by exploiting the existence of parallel universes. So thus if his machine is working in his opinion parallel universes exist. You can disagree with him on that opinion.

But get what he said right.
 
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I don't think it's time travel bro because time is linear. I figured this thread was going to be about trying to connect the dots with some research. Turning out to be some back n forth bs. I remember the map showing the way the op described it also, I just have never actually been there or taken a flight to verify that shyt so it's irrelevant at this point. I doubt half you take the time to look this up but the owner of d wave quantum computing admitted they found hundreds of parallel universes and can jump in and out of them with a computer altering shyt. When you have Google, nasa ect all having a computer that powerful only a matter of time the world we know would get crazy.

Yup. I remember watching that speech a few years ago thinking dude was buggin. Lo and behold I didn't think my consciousness would shift into one of those parallel universes.

Along with d-wave breh another popular theory is that CERN's particle accelerator is causing these changes. I'm personally not that up on the physics of what CERN is doing but I guess it could be theoretically possible that they could be creating small tears in the fabric of space time that is changing our reality. Maybe rather than slipping into a parallel universe, CERN by colliding these particles at high speeds is messing with the underlying code of this reality. Maybe they are hacking the matrix from the inside and that is what is causing these changes.
 
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No. He said his quantum computer works because it exploits the existence of parallel universes. Its impossible to "find" a parallel universe since by definition it is beyond this space time. But he did say that the mechanism by which his machine works is by exploiting the existence of parallel universes. So thus if his machine is working in his opinion parallel universes exist. You can disagree with him on that opinion.

But get what he said right.
He made claim. I'm asking for evidence that his utterance carries merit. I'm glad you added "in his opinion", though. That was my point.
 
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Yup. I remember watching that speech a few years ago thinking dude was buggin. Lo and behold I didn't think my consciousness would shift into one of those parallel universes.

Along with d-wave breh another popular theory is that CERN's particle accelerator is causing these changes. I'm personally not that up on the physics of what CERN is doing but I guess it could be theoretically possible that they could be creating small tears in the fabric of space time that is changing our reality. Maybe rather than slipping into a parallel universe, CERN by colliding these particles at high speeds is messing with the underlying code of this reality. Maybe they are hacking the matrix from the inside and that is what is causing these changes.

How? I'm not saying it's impossible, but do you have any evidence that suggests any of that?
 
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So please explain how so many of us could have the EXACT SAME MEMORIES?

Several people have tried explaining how you could all have the same false memories. However, as the explanations weren't sexy enough for y'all, it's been ignored for something that makes people feel like special snowflakes. I guess given the choice between human frailty and super science multi-reality traveller, most will choose the latter.

Simple truth: your memories aren't as good as you all think they are. Further, new/different representations can enforce false memories.

We all remember a world that looked different. And we agree on those differences. The major ones being Australia being thousands of miles north from where we remember. But another major geography difference we agree on is the fact that South America is now shifted thousands of miles to the east. In the reality I remember, South America was positioned more directly below North America (instead of this new southeastern position). The nation of Panama that is today a horizontal nation was a vertical nation in my reality. And I remember the Panama canal running horizontally from east to west. While in this reality, the Panama Canal now runs from northwest to southeast.

I remember the Panama Canal like the guy in the video below. Not the way it currently exists in this reality.



Or parsimoniously, you weren't as good at geography as you think you are.

In any case, still waiting on examples of those books and documentaries you consumed when you were younger, that showed you a different Australia.
 

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most maps are factually inaccurate. for example, on most maps, africa is way smaller than it really is in real life

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/18/afric...nn.com/2016/08/18/africa/real-size-of-africa/

in real life, 3 canadas could fit into africa, but on world maps this is not the case. :ohhh:

This really explains everything well. It's a shame something that basic has been looked at wrongly for so long, but at the core of it, it's nothing that really matters that much to the average human's life.
 
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What are these books you read, and documentaries you watched that showed Australia in a different position?

The books were primarily about human evolution. I don't remember the specific titles. I was studying this topic like 10 years ago. But I specifically remember the most fascinating part of those books being contemplating how ancient man crossed thousands of miles of open ocean to reach Australia 40-60,000 years ago.

I do, however, remember watching this EXACT documentary.

Its weird watching it again as the maps in this documentary have also changed like every other map in the world. However, alot of the content I remember has stayed the same. Which leads to some bizzare inconsistencies regarding the content of what she is saying in the video with this new world map that has Australia within swimming distance of Papau New Guinea.

For example, check out the 1:20 mark. The host Dr. Alice Roberts says "How did humans make the long and dangerous journey to Australia?"

At the 2:00 mark she says: "No one knows how humans reached Australia."

At the 7:18 mark she says: "So is this (20,000 years ago) when people first reached Australia? Long after we colonized Europe and Asia? It would certainly make sense given how far away Australia is."

At the 10:10 mark she says: "These are the most ancient human remains that have ever been found in Australia. And they are incredibly old. The most conservative estimates put them at 40,000 years old, and some people say they might be up to 60,000 years old. Now, that's quite extraordinary, because it would mean modern humans were in Australia before they reached Europe. Which seems highly unlikely. Not only is Australia so much further from Africa than Europe is, there's an ocean to cross. So unlikely does the journey seem that some scientists have poured doubt on it. Instead they suggest that Australians somehow evolved locally.

At the 37:20 mark she says: "But to reach Australia those early pioneers would have had to face the greatest challenge of all, one that was there even 60,000 years ago. The deep seas around Australia."

At the 39:03 mark she says: "We are going to attempt to cross a stretch of open sea to the next island. It's nothing like the distance to Australia, but an excellent test of the principle."

At the 47:55 mark she says: "At about 65,000 years ago, the sea level drops about 100 meters (or 328 feet) below its present-day levels. And the distance between Timor and the northern coast of Australia is reduced to 153 kilometers (or 95 miles).




Now for the skeptics I ask, how do any of these statements make any sense if the distance ancient humans had to travel to get to Australia is around 95 miles? For goodness sakes, the english channel is 22.5 miles and every year people SWIM across it. I don't know what the record for swimming in open ocean is but I wouldn't be surprised if its close to the 95 miles that separated Australia from Indonesia 65,000 years ago?

Look closely at the computer simulation around the 47:55 mark. The simulation is about how Southeast Asia looked 65,000 years ago when sea levels were lower and ancient humans allegedly made the journey to Australia. Look at the map. At that time, in this reality, Papua New Guinea and Australia were one landmass. So I ask, why is the question of how humans got to Australia so much of a mystery but not the question of how humans got to Papua New Guinea? I mean the issue of the origin of humans in Papua New Guinea should be as much a mystery per this documentary as the origin of humans in Australia given the fact in this reality the two land masses were joined 65,000 years ago. But yet it's only the Australian Aborigines that scientists theorized weren't even humans but another species that evolved independently from us in ancient times. Why would this be a theory only with regard to Australian Aborigines? I mean wouldn't the same be true for the people of Papua New Guinea since acccording to this reality the two land masses were connected 65,000 years ago? Its weird how the origin of the Australian Aborigines is such a mystery but there seems to be no mystery as to the origin of humans in Papau New Guinea? Which according to this reality was connected to Australia 65,000 years ago.

Just think about this, if in this reality Australia is no further from Indonesia than Indonesia is from Papua New Guinea and the other islands of Southeast Asia then why would how humans got to Australia be such a mystery? Wouldn't how humans got to those other islands also be as much of a mystery? Why would many of these scientists theorize that Australians were not humans like the rest of us and instead evolved independently if the distance from Indonesia to Australia is no different than the distance from Indonesia to Papua New Guinea? Wouldn't the people of Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, etc. be also considered another species of human?

None of this shyt makes any sense if Australia is located where this present reality says it is. The statements from this documentary that I have isolated only makes sense if Australia is how those of us affected by the Mandela Effect remember it. That it was located thousands of miles south of Papua New Guinea. That it was surrounded by thousands of miles of open ocean. That it was this secluded landmass isolated from the rest of the world. That is the only way these statements would make sense.

I specifically have memories of looking at a globe and being in awe that humans could have traversed such huge distances in ancient times. Looking at today's map it would no more remarkable than me wondering how humans got to Papua New Guinea.

And for the record I never once heard of a mystery concerning how humans got to Papua New Guinea. And I don't ever remember looking at a map and thinking damn how did humans to Papua New Guinea? I do remember thinking that about Australia.
 
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He made claim. I'm asking for evidence that his utterance carries merit. I'm glad you added "in his opinion", though. That was my point.

He's alot smarter than you or I. He just made a fukkin new piece of technology Nasa and Google paid millions for.

If he says his machine works because parallel universes exist, I'll take his word on it since he knows alot more than me about quantum physics.
 
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How? I'm not saying it's impossible, but do you have any evidence that suggests any of that?

The only evidence for this phenomenon is the shared vivid memories between me and thousands of other people who have the same memories and are experiencing the same phenomenon.

Look breh, I know what I'm saying sounds fukking crazy. Hell if I was in your shoes and hearing this from someone else I would say they were crazy or confused. But I'm telling you I'm as sure of this as I have been of anything in my life. This is not something that can be explained using evidence. This is something that can truly only be understood if its being experienced.

Those of us afflicted by this phenomenon didn't just decide all of a sudden to get up one day and decide to claim that our reality had changed. I didn't get up a few days ago when I first encountered this phenomenon and decide to claim to be from another reality. This experience has just been so jarring and earth shattering that I have no other choice but to accept this for what it is. A new reality that is different in some minor ways from what I remember like certain logos and lines in movies changing to major differences like continents shifting thousands of miles.

I was willing to consider that my memories of different logos and movie lines could have been just poor memory. But the shifting of continents I studied my entire life by thousands of miles? Hell no. Once I saw that I realized something more profound was going on.

This is the most significant event in human history and hopefully more people awaken to it.
 
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Now I'm not even sure how I remember where Australia was located when I was younger. :ohhh: Australia on google maps does look like it should be further south. I'm not even sure now. I need to get a globe.
 
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The books were primarily about human evolution. I don't remember the specific titles. I was studying this topic like 10 years ago. But I specifically remember the most fascinating part of those books being contemplating how ancient man crossed thousands of miles of open ocean to reach Australia 40-60,000 years ago.

That's weird. You're convinced of the strength of your memory when it comes to the map of the world, but you can't remember the title of even just one book that informed your learning? Certainly buttresses the suggestion that your memory is more fragile than you care to admit.

I'd argue you'd be more likely to remember the title of a book with content in which you're interested, than you'd be to recall the full details of the world map. So...

I do, however, remember watching this EXACT documentary.

Its weird watching it again as the maps in this documentary have also changed like every other map in the world.


Funny that.

However, alot of the content I remember has stayed the same. Which leads to some bizzare inconsistencies regarding the content of what she is saying in the video with this new world map that has Australia within swimming distance of Papau New Guinea.

For example, check out the 1:20 mark. The host Dr. Alice Roberts says "How did humans make the long and dangerous journey to Australia?"

At the 2:00 mark she says: "No one knows how humans reached Australia."

At the 7:18 mark she says: "So is this (20,000 years ago) when people first reached Australia? Long after we colonized Europe and Asia? It would certainly make sense given how far away Australia is."

At the 10:10 mark she says: "These are the most ancient human remains that have ever been found in Australia. And they are incredibly old. The most conservative estimates put them at 40,000 years old, and some people say they might be up to 60,000 years old. Now, that's quite extraordinary, because it would mean modern humans were in Australia before they reached Europe. Which seems highly unlikely. Not only is Australia so much further from Africa than Europe is, there's an ocean to cross. So unlikely does the journey seem that some scientists have poured doubt on it. Instead they suggest that Australians somehow evolved locally.

At the 37:20 mark she says: "But to reach Australia those early pioneers would have had to face the greatest challenge of all, one that was there even 60,000 years ago. The deep seas around Australia."

At the 39:03 mark she says: "We are going to attempt to cross a stretch of open sea to the next island. It's nothing like the distance to Australia, but an excellent test of the principle."

At the 47:55 mark she says: "At about 65,000 years ago, the sea level drops about 100 meters (or 328 feet) below its present-day levels. And the distance between Timor and the northern coast of Australia is reduced to 153 kilometers (or 95 miles).




Now for the skeptics I ask, how do any of these statements make any sense if the distance ancient humans had to travel to get to Australia is around 95 miles?

I've just watched it, and I'm concerned about your ability to process things. If you paid any attention to the context, it's apparent that when she says Australia is far, it's in reference to the journey from Africa/Middle East. Maybe you should watch it again, because I don't think you were paying attention. It might explain why you didn't know where Australia is located on the map of the world.

For goodness sakes, the english channel is 22.5 miles and every year people SWIM across it. I don't know what the record for swimming in open ocean is but I wouldn't be surprised if its close to the 95 miles that separated Australia from Indonesia 65,000 years ago?

Swimming across the channel is no easy feat, and takes a lot of preparation. It'd be a particularly useless mode of transport for a migrating people.

Look closely at the computer simulation around the 47:55 mark. The simulation is about how Southeast Asia looked 65,000 years ago when sea levels were lower and ancient humans allegedly made the journey to Australia. Look at the map. At that time, in this reality, Papua New Guinea and Australia were one landmass. So I ask, why is the question of how humans got to Australia so much of a mystery but not the question of how humans got to Papua New Guinea? I mean the issue of the origin of humans in Papua New Guinea should be as much a mystery per this documentary as the origin of humans in Australia given the fact in this reality the two land masses were joined 65,000 years ago. But yet it's only the Australian Aborigines that scientists theorized weren't even humans but another species that evolved independently from us in ancient times. Why would this be a theory only with regard to Australian Aborigines? I mean wouldn't the same be true for the people of Papua New Guinea since acccording to this reality the two land masses were connected 65,000 years ago? Its weird how the origin of the Australian Aborigines is such a mystery but there seems to be no mystery as to the origin of humans in Papau New Guinea? Which according to this reality was connected to Australia 65,000 years ago.

Just think about this, if in this reality Australia is no further from Indonesia than Indonesia is from Papua New Guinea and the other islands of Southeast Asia then why would how humans got to Australia be such a mystery? Wouldn't how humans got to those other islands also be as much of a mystery? Why would many of these scientists theorize that Australians were not humans like the rest of us and instead evolved independently if the distance from Indonesia to Australia is no different than the distance from Indonesia to Papua New Guinea? Wouldn't the people of Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, etc. be also considered another species of human?

None of this shyt makes any sense if Australia is located where this present reality says it is. The statements from this documentary that I have isolated only makes sense if Australia is how those of us affected by the Mandela Effect remember it. That it was located thousands of miles south of Papua New Guinea. That it was surrounded by thousands of miles of open ocean. That it was this secluded landmass isolated from the rest of the world. That is the only way these statements would make sense.

Australia is a lot larger and has a harsher terrain than Papua New Guinea. I think you're reaching here. China is close to countries like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, but in the discussion on human migration, China is the proxy for the populating of that region.


I specifically have memories of looking at a globe and being in awe that humans could have traversed such huge distances in ancient times. Looking at today's map it would no more remarkable than me wondering how humans got to Papua New Guinea.

And for the record I never once heard of a mystery concerning how humans got to Papua New Guinea. And I don't ever remember looking at a map and thinking damn how did humans to Papua New Guinea? I do remember thinking that about Australia.

I don't think your memory is as great as you think it is. I'm also convinced you're not as perceptive as you think you are. I don't say that to be insulting, just that it's the case with all humans.
 
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He's alot smarter than you or I. He just made a fukkin new piece of technology Nasa and Google paid millions for.

If he says his machine works because parallel universes exist, I'll take his word on it since he knows alot more than me about quantum physics.

Don't make any judgement on my smarts - you don't know me. In any case, he didn't invent anything: he's just an investor. Also, unlike you, I don't think he knows more about quantum physics than I do, so I'm not taking his word for it. I'm going to need more than someone making an utterance.

The only evidence for this phenomenon is the shared vivid memories between me and thousands of other people who have the same memories and are experiencing the same phenomenon.

So little to none, then?

I was willing to consider that my memories of different logos and movie lines could have been just poor memory. But the shifting of continents I studied my entire life by thousands of miles? Hell no. Once I saw that I realized something more profound was going on.


I don't think you studied Australia, as you can't remember a single book that could have shown what you claim to recall. Your memory is not that trust-worthy.

This is the most significant event in human history and hopefully more people awaken to it.

I doubt it. I could be wrong, though.
 
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That's weird. You're convinced of the strength of your memory when it comes to the map of the world, but you can't remember the title of even just one book that informed your learning? Certainly buttresses the suggestion that your memory is more fragile than you care to admit.

I'd argue you'd be more likely to remember the title of a book with content in which you're interested, than you'd be to recall the full details of the world map. So...



Funny that.



I've just watched it, and I'm concerned about your ability to process things. If you paid any attention to the context, it's apparent that when she says Australia is far, it's in reference to the journey from Africa/Middle East. Maybe you should watch it again, because I don't think you were paying attention. It might explain why you didn't know where Australia is located on the map of the world.



Swimming across the channel is no easy feat, and takes a lot of preparation. It'd be a particularly useless mode of transport for a migrating people.



Australia is a lot larger and has a harsher terrain than Papua New Guinea. I think you're reaching here. China is close to countries like Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, but in the discussion on human migration, China is the proxy for the populating of that region.




I don't think your memory is as great as you think it is. I'm also convinced you're not as perceptive as you think you are. I don't say that to be insulting, just that it's the case with all humans.


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