Average New Car Price Tops $45,000, Used Car Price Over $25,000

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https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/new-car-price-tops-45000/

It’s a good time to be selling a car or truck, or to be trading one in. But new or used, the cost of a replacement is way, way, up vs. a year ago.

The transaction price of the average new vehicle, a measure of how much people actually pay, has been over $40,000 all this year and reached $45,031 in September, according to data from Kelley Blue Book. That’s an increase of $4,872 or 12.1% in the past year.

Used-vehicle retail prices, too, are “insanely high,” averaging more than $25,000 retail since June, up more than $5,000 vs. a year ago, Charlie Chesbrough, senior economist for Cox Automotive, said in a webinar hosted by the American International Automobile Dealers Association.

The average new-vehicle transaction price has hit record levels (month over previous month) six months in a row, according to Kelley Blue Book, which tracks market values for new and used vehicles.

Even the one-month jump in new car prices was dazzling: $1,613, or 3.7% from August to September, said Kayla Reynolds, an analyst for Cox Automotive, parent company of Kelly Blue Book. October figures will be reported by mid-November.

The Perfect Storm
From the seller’s point of view, “it’s kind of an ideal market,” Reynolds said, in a phone interview. “It’s well known that new and used vehicles are in short supply and high demand.”

The short supply of new vehicles is due to an ongoing shortage of computer chips used to control electronics in modern cars and trucks, on top of shortages dating back to auto factory shutdowns last year, due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Nearing the end of summer, the available supply of new vehicles was down 73%, or around 2.5 million vehicles (that weren’t built and sent to dealers), vs. pre-Covid 2019 days, according to Cox Automotive.

Used Cars in Short Supply, Too
For related but not quite identical reasons, the market for used cars and trucks is also experiencing an inventory shortage, which has also driven prices higher.

Companies that run the wholesale, dealer-only auctions where dealers purchase much of their used inventory complain that volume is down from their biggest sources of used vehicles — customer trade-ins, lease returns, repossessions, and former daily rent-a-cars.

Trade-ins are down, because customers can’t find the cars and trucks they want, or because shoppers are starting to postpone purchases in response to high prices. Lease returns are down, since many customers are buying their own lease turn-ins instead of simply handing them in. The residual values stated on lease documents—the fixed amount a customer can buy the off-lease car for, is typically thousands of dollars less than its actual value. See, “How to Cash In On The High Value Of Your Leased Car.

Repos are down, because during Covid, many lenders have observed a moratorium on repossessions. And rental returns to auction houses are down, because travel has been way down until recently, and because the factories are diverting scarce new cars and trucks to retail customers, and shorting the rental fleets.
 

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This is ONLY because of the supply chain issues. You gotta look at the 2019 numbers and factor out these past 2 years to get a more realistic figure on how the auto industry is looking. New cars are only going to keep getting more expensive because technology, but the only reason used cars has shot up in value is because the shortage of new cars.
 

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Lack of new cars resulted in me doing my first built to order for the car I purchased. No idea when it is going to arrive.
 

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im sitll not understanding the chip shortage

like whats actually creating it or even started it in the first place

just not cars effected by this
 

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Lack of new cars resulted in me doing my first built to order for the car I purchased. No idea when it is going to arrive.

I tried to build a corvette on chevy site just last night and after editing the options i wanted for around 30 or so minutes

at the end all it did was refer to me see if any dealer has the options (none did)

:dead:

what a waste of fukking time :dead:

I also learned that to get the see through view of the engine cost $1000, I thought that was standard on 2021-2022 vettes but :manny: one of the options I added , all for nothing :francis:
 

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im sitll not understanding the chip shortage

like whats actually creating it or even started it in the first place

just not cars effected by this

Here's my understanding of it:

The bigger issue is less about chips but how the global supply chain operates, particularly in manufacturing.

Many large manufacturing firms operate on a concept of "just in time production (JITP)". Essentially keeping excess inventory as low as possible and only producing the goods they can get to market and sell quickly. For the concept to work, it requires extensive knowledge of their buyer's habits and forward-looking market forecasts. This JITP allows firms to increase efficiency and maximize profits.

However, when the pandemic hit and economic activity was forecast downwards, many manufacturers (chip makers, carmakers, and other manufactures) tapered down their production / scaled back on their orders of component parts etc. With car manufacturers especially, they didn't expect consumers to get back to driving en masse till late into 2021. As such, many car firms canceled their chip orders for the upcoming fiscal year altogether and "lost their place" in line to other firms that expected increased demand for their products (ipads, home appliances, laptops, phones etc).

Economic activity rebounded faster than they expected and car manufacturers were essentially were caught with their pants down. That's one part.

The 2nd part is far more straightforward. When you close down your manufacturing plant / take plants offline, it takes a lot of time to ramp back up to full capacity. In manufacturing, it isn't just as easy as flipping a switch and getting everything back up and running. Especially when component parts are often from different countries. You had firms having to coordinate increased demand across a global supply chain in different stages of it’s pandemic response.

The fallout from this has really been a big blow to globalism and some firms are now looking for ways to localize the more critical parts of their production.
 
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Chinese need to corner the market with a cheap reliable electric car
 
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