‘Aye Come here’ CJ Stroud Lil Bro’s Caleb

[Still Benefited]

You gotta be a casual who hasn’t watched shyt this season

sorry im not watchint the all 22 of teams i dont give a damn about

But i do watch enough games,and enough sports talk shows to know Caleb been inconsistent. And i know they are telling the truth because i watch highlights and saw enough struggle games and stat lines with my own two eyes


Tell me right now that Caleb has had a stretch as good as CJs first year,ill wait. If you cant or wont,shut the hell up then

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

CJ looked completely lost in back to back games. Houston's defense played amazing as well, so in relation to this thread, CJ's regression and Caleb's play this year completely flips their status IMO.

CJ looked so bad that the half-time show during yesterday's game was literally debating whether or not the Texans should bench him going into the 3rd Quarter



He looked completely overwhelmed, where as Caleb literally had one of the most unbelievable plays you'll ever see in an NFL game. They are not the same.

Show me where I defended CJ. You're doing the same thing as the last poster. You are arguing semantics. I said both played like ass because they both played to varying degrees of ass. If you want to throw a parade because Caleb made some better throws and he made a crazy play at the end of regulation, cool. But he still didn't play well enough to beat the Rams. He still threw 3 INTs. He still missed receivers. Any other QB would face criticism for that performance.

So what I'm seeing here is that Josh Allen "being treated with kids gloves" is only an issue when it's Allen but if it's a QB you like, then that QB can be treated with kid's gloves. These threads are all disingenuous.

Drake Maye, Josh Allen, Caleb, CJ, really no QBs had great weekends or even a good weekend.

 

[Harry B]

sorry im not watchint the all 22 of teams i dont give a damn about

But i do watch enough games,and enough sports talk shows to know Caleb been inconsistent. And i know they are telling the truth because i watch highlights and saw enough struggle games and stat lines with my own two eyes


Tell me right now that Caleb has had a stretch as good as CJs first year,ill wait. If you cant or wont,shut the hell up then

While Caleb has been amazing imo, people are funny with their "casual" takes, because you don't spend 800+ hours in 5 months watching football (for reference usually people work 2000 hours per year)

You didn't see Bryce drop 3 TDs on them? Casual!!

 

[Womb Raider]

 

[Deafheaven]

Perhaps here is where he went wrong

From this interaction, to his ‘I’m getting old’ comment. He had a false sense of security and ‘making it’. We don’t know the work he puts in so I won’t go THAT far and say he stopped trying to get better (but it sure looks like it)

What we can say is he didn’t account for the maniacal level of detail DCs put in and how they almost always figure you out to some degree after a year of tape

You’re almost better off being mid with room to improve (Maye, Allen, baker) as opposed to fast success that may be fools gold

This is why I'm still high on Caleb after this year. for as soft spoken and obama like he sounds like, that nikka is a football psychopath and doesn't feel he has made it at all and so is his coach. Is a perfect marriage of chaos because BJ is not going to rest until he executing at a high high level.

 

[Deafheaven]

You really taking a victory lap after that game Caleb had yesterday


One looked great and has fallen on tough times. The other has never looked great despite the team around him. Put CJ on the Bears and then lets see what happens. Thats a trade that makes perfect sense.

Bears would have won like 7 games have you been in a cryochamber for the past 3 months?

 

[Still Benefited]

This is the dumbest shyt i’ve read yet…

Bears would have won like 7 games have you been in a cryochamber for the past 3 months?

Caleb and Bo Nix are basically the same nikka

Do you think the Broncos view him as the long term guaranteed starter of the future? No,yet somehow yall wanna act like Caleb is that guy.

I just so happen to think this is who Caleb is. Yall so excited because hes on an upward trajectory from bad to mid. Nevermind the fact he was inconsistent last year and inconsistent this year. Which maybe means he will just always be inconsistent. I think his cieling is slightly worst Justin Herbert.


Problem is the way yalls minds work. Youll assume a quarterback who went from bad to mid is trending towards greatness. But assume a qb who went from greatness to bad,cant get back to greatness

I remember when people said Goff was washed and broken too. Ben Johnson sure turned him around didnt he. But go ahead and take your chances with Caleb. Difference in Caleb and Stroud is one had to be game planned for and figured out. Caleb hasnt even shown you how bad he is when every team game plans to stop him.


Edit-Oh and shytty O line play and injuries too,along with not having Ben Johnson

 

[Deafheaven]

Caleb and Bo Nix are basically the same nikka

Do you think the Broncos view him as the long term guaranteed starter of the future? No,yet somehow yall wanna act like Caleb is that guy.

I just so happen to think this is who Caleb is. Yall so excited because hes on an upward trajectory from bad to mid. Nevermind the fact he was inconsistent last year and inconsistent this year. Which maybe means he will just always be inconsistent. I think his cieling is slightly worst Justin Herbert.


Problem is the way yalls minds work. Youll assume a quarterback who went from bad to mid is trending towards greatness. But assume a qb who went from greatness to bad,cant get back to greatness

I remember when people said Goff was washed and broken too. Ben Johnson sure turned him around didnt he. But go ahead and take your chances with Caleb. Difference in Caleb and Stroud is one had to be game planned for and figured out. Caleb hasnt even shown you how bad he is when every team game plans to stop him.


Edit-Oh and shytty O line play and injuries too,along with not having Ben Johnson

Wow,

hang this is in the Louvre version of retarded posts my god.

at you thinking teams don't gameplan for every qb they face

 

[MVike28]

I've never seen people throw on a cape and argue semantics for a guy who threw three picks. You got it.

Clearly didn’t watch the game

Either that or your just intellectually dishonest lol

 

[GoldenGlove]

We need an updated slide now

 

[GoldenGlove]

Show me where I defended CJ. You're doing the same thing as the last poster. You are arguing semantics. I said both played like ass because they both played to varying degrees of ass. If you want to throw a parade because Caleb made some better throws and he made a crazy play at the end of regulation, cool. But he still didn't play well enough to beat the Rams. He still threw 3 INTs. He still missed receivers. Any other QB would face criticism for that performance.

So what I'm seeing here is that Josh Allen "being treated with kids gloves" is only an issue when it's Allen but if it's a QB you like, then that QB can be treated with kid's gloves. These threads are all disingenuous.

Drake Maye, Josh Allen, Caleb, CJ, really no QBs had great weekends or even a good weekend.

The 1st INT does not happen if Rome catches the fukking TD 2 plays prior
The 1st INT does not happen if Ben Johnson takes the fukking FG

The 2nd INT happened because Loveland misread the coverage and ran an in route when he should have ran a go route to take the coverage with him

The 3rd INT doesn't happen if DJ Moore runs the right route
The 3rd INT doesn't happen if Ben Johnson doesn't call that dumbass play to begin with

Ultimately, Caleb threw those balls and they were picked. Watch the tape and understand the nuance as to why they happened. That's where I don't agree with the blanket statement that he played like ass. He actually is fully grasping the offense and the intricacies that go along with it and unfortunately, his receivers are not doing what they're supposed to be doing for the concepts that they're supposed to be executing.

You might as well just look at the boxscore and make a determination. The picks he threw compared to the shyt CJ was doing for example ARE NOT the same.

 

[klientel]

The 1st INT does not happen if Rome catches the fukking TD 2 plays prior
The 1st INT does not happen if Ben Johnson takes the fukking FG

The 2nd INT happened because Loveland misread the coverage and ran an in route when he should have ran a go route to take the coverage with him

The 3rd INT doesn't happen if DJ Moore runs the right route
The 3rd INT doesn't happen if Ben Johnson doesn't call that dumbass play to begin with

Ultimately, Caleb threw those balls and they were picked. Watch the tape and understand the nuance as to why they happened. That's where I don't agree with the blanket statement that he played like ass. He actually is fully grasping the offense and the intricacies that go along with it and unfortunately, his receivers are not doing what they're supposed to be doing for the concepts that they're supposed to be executing.

You might as well just look at the boxscore and make a determination. The picks he threw compared to the shyt CJ was doing for example ARE NOT the same.

I don’t see how you can say any of that with a straight face…

You can’t just say oh that INT doesn’t happen if the play before it was successful. If that’s the case you can excuse every INT in the history of the NFL.

And you have no idea what Loveland’s route was on that play lol. For all you know maybe he ran the route exactly as the play was designed. He’s a rookie, it’s very likely that he’s not out there running options and doing whatever he feels like doing…like he’s Wes Welker. If he ran an in route it’s a 99% chance that was the play design. You can’t just say “oh he should have ran a go route”, it doesn’t work like that

And who knows what happened on the last INT. DJ wasn’t even looking for the ball so that tells me either it was a play miscommunication or Caleb went into hero mode and took a shot. Because he had both Kmet and I think Monangai open on a chip and release. It really feels like that’s where the play was supposed to go given the situation. DJ did a double take when he saw the ball coming his way.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I don’t see how you can say any of that with a straight face…

You can’t just say oh that INT doesn’t happen if the play before it was successful. If that’s the case you can excuse every INT in the history of the NFL.

And you have no idea what Loveland’s route was on that play lol. For all you know maybe he ran the route exactly as the play was designed. He’s a rookie, it’s very likely that he’s not out there running options and doing whatever he feels like doing…like he’s Wes Welker. If he ran an in route it’s a 99% chance that was the play design. You can’t just say “oh he should have ran a go route”, it doesn’t work like that

And who knows what happened on the last INT. DJ wasn’t even looking for the ball so that tells me either it was a play miscommunication or Caleb went into hero mode and took a shot. Because he had both Kmet and I think Monangai open on a chip and release. It really feels like that’s where the play was supposed to go given the situation. DJ did a double take when he saw the ball coming his way.

I'm deadass.

It's common sense, and I'm sure you can go in to detail for multiple picks. But I haven't seen every pick nor do I give a fukk. I'm talking about a game where I watched every snap. Nothing that I'm saying is bullshyt.

Caleb came out on the first series throwing darts. Literally threw a damn TD and his receiver dropped the pass. I can say that with a straight face because that's literally wtf happened. Caleb is in Year 2, despite his immense talent, it's still up to the coach to reel shyt in even when you're PISSED that you should of had a TD earlier in the drive and you go for it on 4th and 3 with a gimme FG right there to take. All of this shyt matters. Congrats, your team won, but let's be real, the Bears let the Rams live by simply not taking the points. That's really easy to say with a straight face



And for the 3rd pick, I'm sure you loved that play call



Bears #2 rushing team in the NFL and actually are marching down the field, 15 yards away from being in FG range... it's 2nd in 6, and our coach calls a play that is completely unnecessary and ends up in a drive and season ending pick. For me to say that play shouldn't of even happened is logical, not an excuse. Just run the fukking ball.

I really don't even care what was supposed to happen with that route, I'm more blown that Ben thought that THAT was the time to even call that.

It's also funny how you're bringing up excuses, and making excuses for mfers dropping TDs, not running routes hard and not being where they're supposed to be at.

 

[klientel]

I'm deadass.

It's common sense, and I'm sure you can go in to detail for multiple picks. But I haven't seen every pick nor do I give a fukk. I'm talking about a game where I watched every snap. Nothing that I'm saying is bullshyt.

Caleb came out on the first series throwing darts. Literally threw a damn TD and his receiver dropped the pass. I can say that with a straight face because that's literally wtf happened. Caleb is in Year 2, despite his immense talent, it's still up to the coach to reel shyt in even when you're PISSED that you should of had a TD earlier in the drive and you go for it on 4th and 3 with a gimme FG right there to take. All of this shyt matters. Congrats, your team won, but let's be real, the Bears let the Rams live by simply not taking the points. That's really easy to say with a straight face



And for the 3rd pick, I'm sure you loved that play call



Bears #2 rushing team in the NFL and actually are marching down the field, 15 yards away from being in FG range... it's 2nd in 6, and our coach calls a play that is completely unnecessary and ends up in a drive and season ending pick. For me to say that play shouldn't of even happened is logical, not an excuse. Just run the fukking ball.

I really don't even care what was supposed to happen with that route, I'm more blown that Ben thought that THAT was the time to even call that.

It's also funny how you're bringing up excuses, and making excuses for mfers dropping TDs, not running routes hard and not being where they're supposed to be at.

I feel you but I don't think what Caleb threw in OT was the actual intention of the play, as nobody was ready for it. Rome seemed to be running a clear out, DJ as well. He literally looked shocked that the pass was headed his way. You can literally see the double take when the ball was in the air. He did the typical head turn at the top of the route that all receivers are taught to do, and then did another when he realized Caleb actually threw to him.

We will never know what the call was supposed to be. But it REALLY looks like he was supposed to check that down for easy yards as they were probably playing for the FG. That route DJ ran was covered no matter if he ran full speed and Caleb threw a perfect pass, it was the wrong decision.



If the checkdown was the intention then it clearly would have worked. That was an easy 5+ yards

Edit: They basically said the same thing in regards to that play. The pass was so trash, he should have never threw that

 

[threattonature]

I feel you but I don't think what Caleb threw in OT was the actual intention of the play, as nobody was ready for it. Rome seemed to be running a clear out, DJ as well. He literally looked shocked that the pass was headed his way. You can literally see the double take when the ball was in the air. He did the typical head turn at the top of the route that all receivers are taught to do, and then did another when he realized Caleb actually threw to him.

We will never know what the call was supposed to be. But it REALLY looks like he was supposed to check that down for easy yards as they were probably playing for the FG. That route DJ ran was covered no matter if he ran full speed and Caleb threw a perfect pass, it was the wrong decision.



If the checkdown was the intention then it clearly would have worked. That was an easy 5+ yards

Edit: They basically said the same thing in regards to that play. The pass was so trash, he should have never threw that

I think Rome should be getting heat too on that play. It looked like Rome was running a clear out like you said but he stops running too which freed up the Houston defender to break so hard towards the ball. If Rome is running all out that might occupy the safety. I see exactly what Caleb was seeing when he made the throw. The question is what route was DJ Moore supposed to be running and does their playbook call for adlibbing. That type of chemistry takes time to build and if it's not something they are used to doing, if that wasn't Moore's route then it was a dumb throw by Caleb.

A large number of Mahomes great plays was him just reading the D and throwing to an open spot in the field knowing that Tyreek or Kelce would see the same thing so they'd improvise. I was watching a lot of Mahomes Tyreek games recently and his deep ball was always inaccurate. Tyreek was just an amazing ball tracker that made his deep ball look way better than it really was.