Ayo, Putin really is trying to move nukes. Legit source

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All over fukking Ukraine.

Some of the automatons in this thread were just high fining each other and laughing it up as if Putin doesn’t have nukes and has cancer.
Win the Ukraine war just to get the west and east coast hit with nukes that kill hundreds of millions and make it an uninhabitable land forever brehs
 

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Given that a nuke doesn't stop the Ukrainian army, and would instead result in the entire Russian force being destroyed by the US, I doubt this happens. It would alienate the only major allies Russia has left (China and India) and likely destroy Russia's government. Where is the upside?

The problem of course is that he has no upside to continuing the course in Ukraine conventionally either. Russia is losing and that's not changing. His only move is to retreat but that would likely get him toppled from within...so he has no easy choices.
 

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Given that a nuke doesn't stop the Ukrainian army, and would instead result in the entire Russian force being destroyed by the US, I doubt this happens. It would alienate the only major allies Russia has left (China and India) and likely destroy Russia's government. Where is the upside?

The problem of course is that he has no upside to continuing the course in Ukraine conventionally either. Russia is losing and that's not changing. His only move is to retreat but that would likely get him toppled from within...so he has no easy choices.

I dont think thats whatll happen though. The US would probably respond by either destroying Russian assets in Ukraine with conventional weapons, or by dropping a tactical nuke on Belarus (thats what the war games conducted by the Obama admin suggested we should do) to let the Russians now we WILL take it there but avoid going tit for tat with the nukes.. kill their little mans Lukashenka and make an example out of that without turning the world to dust. The Russians would de-escalate at that point seeing that we mean business but the world would be spared.... nobody wants to risk armaggeddon for any Eastern European country whether its Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia etc.

I would advise AGAINST any direct attack on Russian soil (I think the "annexed" territories are fair game though) but thats where Putins bluff comes in.... either we call that shyt or we just let him have those territories for the sake of peace.

Some people say its appeasement but its different with nukes involved. We havent even pushed up on bytch ass North Korea cause they got 4 or 5 little nukes. The one thing that the Russians and Chinese are right about is that the world IS heading into a period where its gonna be carved up into different zones of power again.
 

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People think this is just posturing


Pride is a hell of a demon

Putin is full of pride


Now the USA sowed that seed when we nuked japan

you don't think that shyt coming back i'm not even religious.
 

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Him dropping nukes won’t help him win the war but make it even harder for Russia.

He initially got what he wanted, a fight between Russia and Ukraine, he flexed if anyone got involved that he would use nukes, and it worked, no one got involved with troops on the ground from nato.

If he drops a nuke at this point it would mean the end of Russia.
 

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I dont think thats whatll happen though. The US would probably respond by either destroying Russian assets in Ukraine with conventional weapons, or by dropping a tactical nuke on Belarus (thats what the war games conducted by the Obama admin suggested we should do) to let the Russians now we WILL take it there but avoid going tit for tat with the nukes.. kill their little mans Lukashenka and make an example out of that without turning the world to dust. The Russians would de-escalate at that point seeing that we mean business but the world would be spared.... nobody wants to risk armaggeddon for any Eastern European country whether its Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia etc.

I would advise AGAINST any direct attack on Russian soil (I think the "annexed" territories are fair game though) but thats where Putins bluff comes in.... either we call that shyt or we just let him have those territories for the sake of peace.

Some people say its appeasement but its different with nukes involved. We havent even pushed up on bytch ass North Korea cause they got 4 or 5 little nukes. The one thing that the Russians and Chinese are right about is that the world IS heading into a period where its gonna be carved up into different zones of power again.
Especially the bolded. Were moving to a period of continental unions rather than independent nation states i believe. Countries will have their own independent laws and governance, but economic and military partnerships are coming across multiple countries in the future.

Here's what I think would've happened if Trump bytchass stayed in office for another 4 years over the next 2-20 years:

Ukraine would've gotten flattened. Russia takes Moldova next, followed by the "Stan" countries. They chill on the Baltic states, but they reinforce their military and China gets Froggy, and runs on Taiwan, and controls the whole south China sea. Of course the US doesn't respond.

Trump starts pulling back military bases from everywhere. This inadvertently causes countries all over the world to drop the dollar. This would cause a major recession, but believe it or not, the US would recover...and becomes more of an isolationist country like they were pre-WWI. People don't want to believe it, but the US has everything to be independent, they can bring manufacturing back in 5 years if forced, there's enough energy, arable land, and immigration is consistent enough they'd recover in 5-10 years.

Western Europe forms into a more concrete union and begins to militarize heavily, but really is no match for a unified China/Russian alliance and eventually they get ran on at a later date in the far future.

Finally, China and Russia basically colonize most of Africa AGAIN...
 

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Ya'll nikkas still think that man is playing....

I don't think anyone is thinking that he's playing. I think that most people that he's full of shyt and this war was entirely his flawed choice. So yeah he wants to saber rattle the nukes because that's the only big dikk energy he has that's worth a damn. Well hopefully. They better make sure they're fully operational, and whoever is in the command center guiding those missiles, have better training than their grunts on the front line.
 

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I dont think thats whatll happen though. The US would probably respond by either destroying Russian assets in Ukraine with conventional weapons, or by dropping a tactical nuke on Belarus (thats what the war games conducted by the Obama admin suggested we should do) to let the Russians now we WILL take it there but avoid going tit for tat with the nukes.. kill their little mans Lukashenka and make an example out of that without turning the world to dust. The Russians would de-escalate at that point seeing that we mean business but the world would be spared.... nobody wants to risk armaggeddon for any Eastern European country whether its Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia etc.

I would advise AGAINST any direct attack on Russian soil (I think the "annexed" territories are fair game though) but thats where Putins bluff comes in.... either we call that shyt or we just let him have those territories for the sake of peace.

Some people say its appeasement but its different with nukes involved. We havent even pushed up on bytch ass North Korea cause they got 4 or 5 little nukes. The one thing that the Russians and Chinese are right about is that the world IS heading into a period where its gonna be carved up into different zones of power again.
That was the Obama admin. That story also said the aides who pushed against the idea, and instead offered a conventional response, happen to now be major advisors of Biden in the WH. I don't think there's any chance the US responds with nukes unless Russia shoots one at us. Instead the US Air Force will simply eliminate Russian targets in Ukraine. At that point Putin won't have an army.

If he responds by sending nukes our way then it's mutual destruction. Something no one wants. Personally I think Putin would be removed from office before he can launch a nuke.
 
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