Baaaby Baaaaby!!!!Biggie gets his own statue

[Renzo]

Sold 6 mil before his death with AEOM

Yeah he was sitting at 6-6.5mil by the time he died, the album was well on its way to passing 10mil had he lived..he was just getting started with a ambitionz as ridah movie coming out and more singles to carry that album at least another year...it was at 9mil by time 98 came around...

 

[mobbinfms]

Yeah he was sitting at 6-6.5mil by the time he died

More than likely...but it wasn't certified at 6 until after he died.

Here is what the RIAA has for All Eyez on Me

PAC
Title: ALL EYEZ ON ME
Certification Date: July 23, 2014
Label: DEATH ROW / INTERSCOPE
Format: ALBUM
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Release Date.February 13, 1996
Category: SOLO
Type: Standard
Certified Units: 10 Million
Genre: None
Previous Certification:
10x Multi-Platinum | July 23, 2014
9x Multi-Platinum | June 18, 1998
8x Multi-Platinum | June 16, 1998
7x Multi-Platinum | December 9, 1996
6x Multi-Platinum | September 19, 1996
5x Multi-Platinum | April 25, 1996
Platinum | April 25, 1996
Gold | April 25, 1996

The rest of your post is just speculation...

 

[kingofnyc]

Holler If Ya Hear Me though
But yeah I took one listen to the dub of that album back in 93 and moved right along...

But this all stems from you saying Pac was a struggle rapper at this time...he clearly could make amazing songs...just hadn't yet cracked the code on a whole album yet. But in no way shape form or fashion was he struggling.

respectfully disagree
(note: struggling rapper meaning in ones success not ones quality)



by the summer of '93 he had 2 albums under his belt / 3 movies under his belt / a bunch of tv guest appearances under his belt and he was on 1 of the top music labels

YET
with all these accolades he STILL wasnt a gold artist

IMO that's a struggling rapper

see @spliz
that's not me being bias that's me dropping FACTS to support my opinion on the term 'struggling rapper'


no hate

 

[Renzo]

More than likely...but it wasn't certified at 6 until after he died.

The rest of your post is just speculation...

You see me arguing my views as anything other than speculation? Regardless of when it was certified, by the time the MTV awards came around, Pac was saying it was at almost 7mil..

 

[mobbinfms]

respectfully disagree
(note: struggling rapper meaning in ones success not ones quality)



by the summer of '93 he had 2 albums under his belt / 3 movies under his belt / a bunch of tv guest appearances under his belt and he was on 1 of the top music labels

YET
with all these accolades he STILL wasnt a gold artist

IMO that's a struggling rapper

see @spliz
that's not me being bias that's me dropping FACTS to support my opinion on the term 'struggling rapper'


no hate

He went gold in September of that year though
He clearly wasn't struggling in the summer when he was on the way to a gold album and 2 gold singles...one of which hadn't even dropped yet.

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2 PAC STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. April 19, 1995 INTERSCOPE ALBUM
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
February 1, 1993 Platinum | April 19, 1995 SOLO Standard 1 Million None
Gold | September 24, 1993

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2 PAC KEEP YA HEAD UP December 21, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
October 8, 1993 Gold | December 21, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

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2 PAC I GET AROUND December 7, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
July 30, 1993 Gold | December 7, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

 

[spliz]

He went gold in September of that year though
He clearly wasn't struggling in the summer when he was on the way to a gold album and 2 gold singles...one of which hadn't even dropped yet.

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2 PAC STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. April 19, 1995 INTERSCOPE ALBUM
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
February 1, 1993 Platinum | April 19, 1995 SOLO Standard 1 Million None
Gold | September 24, 1993

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2 PAC KEEP YA HEAD UP December 21, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
October 8, 1993 Gold | December 21, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

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2 PAC I GET AROUND December 7, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
July 30, 1993 Gold | December 7, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

Gonna get ignored or delflected. Yall gonna be doin this all day. Lol. Gold in 1993 is "struggling". Smh. Lol.

 

[FakeNews]

He went gold in September of that year though
He clearly wasn't struggling in the summer when he was on the way to a gold album and 2 gold singles...one of which hadn't even dropped yet.

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2 PAC STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. April 19, 1995 INTERSCOPE ALBUM
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
February 1, 1993 Platinum | April 19, 1995 SOLO Standard 1 Million None
Gold | September 24, 1993

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2 PAC KEEP YA HEAD UP December 21, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
October 8, 1993 Gold | December 21, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

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2 PAC I GET AROUND December 7, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
July 30, 1993 Gold | December 7, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

Good post that will most likely be avoided

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Gonna get ignored or delflected. Yall gonna be doin this all day. Lol. Gold in 1993 is "struggling". Smh. Lol.

Gold in pre download era is struggling yes

Established Artist considered that a flop

 

[mobbinfms]

Gold in pre download era is struggling yes

Established Artist considered that a flop

How many rappers went Platinum in 93?

 

[MikeyC]

This thread is 13 pages of nothing but grown men arguing over who's better out of two rappers who died 20 years ago.




Gotdamn, I love hip hop.

 

[kingofnyc]

He went gold in September of that year though
He clearly wasn't struggling in the summer when he was on the way to a gold album and 2 gold singles...one of which hadn't even dropped yet.

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2 PAC STRICTLY 4 MY N.I.G.G.A.Z. April 19, 1995 INTERSCOPE ALBUM
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
February 1, 1993 Platinum | April 19, 1995 SOLO Standard 1 Million None
Gold | September 24, 1993

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2 PAC KEEP YA HEAD UP December 21, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
October 8, 1993 Gold | December 21, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

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2 PAC I GET AROUND December 7, 1993 INTERSCOPE SINGLE
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Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
July 30, 1993 Gold | December 7, 1993 SOLO Standard 0.5 Million None

Gonna get ignored or delflected. Yall gonna be doin this all day. Lol. Gold in 1993 is "struggling". Smh. Lol.

Good post that will most likely be avoided

i dont understand

he debut'd in late '91 and got his 1st gold record in late '93
thats (2) years

and as i stated its not like he was just some no name, no face, no identity rapper on a small independent label
he had all perks being on tv, being in movies, being part of a top group, being on the top label in the industry

i dont know how not to define that as a struggling rapper

 

[mobbinfms]

i dont understand

he debut'd in late '91 and got his 1st gold record in late '93
thats (2) years

and as i stated its not like he was just some no name, no face, no identity rapper on a small independent label
he had all perks being on tv, being in movies, being part of a top group, being on the top label in the industry

i dont know how not to define that as a struggling rapper

What does him debuting in 91 have to do with anything?

If you want to cal him a struggle rapper on the first album that's a different story.
But with the second album, it went gold the same year it was released and had two gold singles both certified in 93.

Two of the highest charting singles in 93
1993 in hip hop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Especially if you don't count Snow and Whoomp There it Is

So where is the struggle?

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Biggie is the GOAT.

Glad to see his legacy being upheld

 

[kingofnyc]

What does him debuting in 91 have to do with anything?

If you want to cal him a struggle rapper on the first album that's a different story.
But with the second album, it went gold the same year it was released and had two gold singles both certified in 93.

Two of the highest charting singles in 93
1993 in hip hop music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Especially if you don't count Snow and Whoomp There it Is

So where is the struggle?

breh - i said he was a struggling rapper in summer '93

2pacalyse oct '91 / SFMN feb '93 ----->>>> SFMN gold sept '93 / 2 singles gold in dec'93

obviously he wasn't a struggling rapper by late '93

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

Its been over two decades and nikkas still on that biggie vs Pac bullshyt

Lmao one of them beefs that wont end until probably 90 babies die off. Iont know if the millenials will argue about this