Ballot or the Bullet = GOAT speech by any Black leader ever

[2Quik4UHoes]

If someone here knows of a better one please let me know, otherwise for the ones that’s never heard this classic do yourself a favor and listen to this now:

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[Secure Da Bag]

If it's not the GOAT speech by a black leader, it certainly the GOAT in current day relevance.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/malcolm-x-official-thread.694801/

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Amazing how much his speeches are still relevant and impactful in present day. The people that really need to hear this are never the ones that listen. That's why these threads stay so quiet.. unfortunately. Growing up, these speeches were played in my house so it's almost secondary nature. A result of indoctrination and education.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

When he drops that line about the Dems being in power, that is the exact same thing that happened in 2009. Assuming that it happens again in 2021, I bet we get treated the same way again.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

If it's not the GOAT speech by a black leader, it certainly the GOAT in current day relevance.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/malcolm-x-official-thread.694801/

What would you consider a "GOAT" speech, along with the speaker/leader?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Amazing how much his speeches are still relevant and impactful in present day. The people that really need to hear this are never the ones that listen. That's why these threads stay so quiet.. unfortunately. Growing up, these speeches were played in my house so it's almost secondary nature. A result of indoctrination and education.

Unfortunately, all I heard about was MLK back in the day. Malcolm X was always referred to, if at all, by other black people as militant and angry. How misguided we black folk were in the 80s.

What would you consider a "GOAT" speech, along with the speaker/leader?

Minister Farrakhan has some GOAT speeches. The one to the NABJ was on point and still extremely relevant today. Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union (you can see it on CSPAN website) has some pretty good talks/speeches as well.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

When he drops that line about the Dems being in power, that is the exact same thing that happened in 2009. Assuming that it happens again in 2021, I bet we get treated the same way again.

That's why I say that most of his teachings apply to today; on reflection- I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. By 'bad' (not in the context of Malcolm X, of course) but in terms of the progression and elevation in the political realm. What is accomplished other than the grass roots movement that finally is calling for accountability for those in power positions.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

That's why I say that most of his teachings apply to today; on reflection- I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing. By 'bad' (not in the context of Malcolm X, of course) but in terms of the progression and elevation in the political realm. What is accomplished other than the grass roots movement that finally is calling for accountability for those in power positions.

Politically we've gone nowhere in 50 years. The marketing of integration and cherry picking of MLK's words put us in a political runt. But after Obama, our absence during the 2010 midterms, and the result of Obama's Presidency (hint: impeachment), we're finally seeing the light. This reparations movement is probably the best thing to happen to black people in 50 years. Simply because of the political focus it has given us.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Unfortunately, all I heard about was MLK back in the day. Malcolm X was always referred to, if at all, by other black people as militant and angry. How misguided we black folk were in the 80s.




Minister Farrakhan has some GOAT speeches. The one to the NABJ was on point and still extremely relevant today. Tavis Smiley's State of the Black Union (you can see it on CSPAN website) has some pretty good talks/speeches as well.

hey - I have to ask you a question about Farrakhan, What does he mean in this speech snippet? I posted the question on twitter, basically what I said is - "is he blaming black people for white aggression" ? I wanted to see how people interpreted it.and your perspective... yours too @2Quik4UHoes

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Politically we've gone nowhere in 50 years. The marketing of integration and cherry picking of MLK's words put us in a political runt. But after Obama, our absence during the 2010 midterms, and the result of Obama's Presidency (hint: impeachment), we're finally seeing the light. This reparations movement is probably the best thing to happen to black people in 50 years. Simply because of the political focus it has given us.

Right. I feel the same. Thanks.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

If you don't get your house in order, they gonna make sure it stays out of order or just take you out the house.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

hey - I have to ask you a question about Farrakhan, What does he mean in this speech snippet? I posted the question on twitter, basically what I said is - "is he blaming black people for white aggression" ? I wanted to see how people interpreted it.and your perspective... yours too @2Quik4UHoes

To be honest, I revere Malcolm so much that I don’t pay Farrakhan any mind. But listening to that clip what I got from it was that since Black people are willing to look the other way and are more concerned with getting along with the white man then you are at least partly complicit with the violence brought upon you.

I think it’s much more complicated than that and we aren’t ever acknowledging how serious of a trauma Black people have collectively faced. It’s also the difference between him and Malcolm imo, Farrakhan is coming from a more spiritual perspective whereas Malcolm came from a more down to Earth approach. One feels like listening to a preacher and the other feels like listening to your homeboy from around the neighborhood.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

To be honest, I revere Malcolm so much that I don’t pay Farrakhan any mind. But listening to that clip what I got from it was that since Black people are willing to look the other way and are more concerned with getting along with the white man then you are at least partly complicit with the violence brought upon you.

I think it’s much more complicated than that and we aren’t ever acknowledging how serious of a trauma Black people have collectively faced. It’s also the difference between him and Malcolm imo, Farrakhan is coming from a more spiritual perspective whereas Malcolm came from a more down to Earth approach. One feels like listening to a preacher and the other feels like listening to your homeboy from around the neighborhood.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I'm like you - I don't pay attention to Farrakhan, been a die hard Malcolm X proponent and I know the history of conflict between the two. It came across on my feed and I clicked to see what that was about. In typical fashion - more of the same, like you said preaching mentality as opposed to teaching and understanding. Farrakhan to me seems to condemn black people with the fire and brimstone moreso than he speaks about white opposition and their contribution to our situations, whereas Malcolm does the opposite.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

This is a becoming a sad thread. No one has anything to say about the OP speech and no one has any speeches that they've heard that they think is very good or GOAT.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

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The way he describes the absurdity and hypocrisy of Reagan is and .