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Barack Obama: Africa should stop making economic excuses
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MVike28
right around the ACC
Don't use the N word please.
Trajan
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This nikka Obama 
I mean I share the same sentiments. Africans are to a certain extent culpable for their current predicament. There is a lack of accountability. A lot of African countries are either directly ruled or indirectly controlled by the post-independence elite. They are corrupt mothufukkas in cahoots with external corporations to loot resources. They don't give a shyt about their brethren. The nerve of the President of Equatorial Guinea to complain about Western neo-colonialism when his son owns $2m worth of Michael Jackson memorabilia and lives in a $100m mansion in one of Paris' most prestigious neighbourhoods, yet less than half of the population has access to clean drinking water
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However, this speech should not be coming from Obama. For the leader of the Western world, which has consistently RAPED Africa, to reduce African problems to ''economic excuses'' is a slap in the face.
E.g he says:
These sound like some nice ideas
. These dumb Africans never thought of this.
In 2006 Nigeria became the first African nation to pay off their debts to the Paris Club (which includes the US) after paying the last instalment of $4.6bn. They still weren't done.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4926966.stm
How many schools and clinics could've been built with the money you made off loansharking Mr Obama?
I mean I share the same sentiments. Africans are to a certain extent culpable for their current predicament. There is a lack of accountability. A lot of African countries are either directly ruled or indirectly controlled by the post-independence elite. They are corrupt mothufukkas in cahoots with external corporations to loot resources. They don't give a shyt about their brethren. The nerve of the President of Equatorial Guinea to complain about Western neo-colonialism when his son owns $2m worth of Michael Jackson memorabilia and lives in a $100m mansion in one of Paris' most prestigious neighbourhoods, yet less than half of the population has access to clean drinking water
...However, this speech should not be coming from Obama. For the leader of the Western world, which has consistently RAPED Africa, to reduce African problems to ''economic excuses'' is a slap in the face.
E.g he says:
These sound like some nice ideas
. These dumb Africans never thought of this.In 2006 Nigeria became the first African nation to pay off their debts to the Paris Club (which includes the US) after paying the last instalment of $4.6bn. They still weren't done.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4926966.stm
How many schools and clinics could've been built with the money you made off loansharking Mr Obama?
Obama done fukked up http://www.thecoli.com/threads/high-stakes-in-africa-can-the-u-s-catch-china.236559/
humble forever
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not necessarily depend, but often aid is given with an understanding that a nation will show some appreciation in one form or another. doesn't seem so outrageous to me. you think china built the new african congres building out of the goodness of their stone cold hearts??
They aren't making economic excuses, they're being milked dry by Western and Eastern superpowers.
Who is stealing the gold? The diamonds? The minerals? The oil? The West
Who profits from neo-colonialism of Africa's weaker countries? The West
Who committed genocide over and over again, destroyed entire cultures, attempted to White-wash, and then blamed all the problems on "tribal feuds?" The West
These aren't excuses. Western powers have been crippling African countries for centuries in their pursuit of power. A ridiculously strong central government is needed when a country is in shambles, and because corruption is so prevalent, it inevitably leads to a dictatorship of some sort.
Remember Thomas Sankarra & Partrice Lumumba? The assassination of their revolutionary leaders, combined with the bloody wards that followed all over the continent bring about discontent with massive change. Once the stealing stops, maybe growth could come about. Unfortunately it hasn't yet, and the cacs keep getting richer.
Who is stealing the gold? The diamonds? The minerals? The oil? The West and the East and the african leaders that are complicit in the theft
Who profits from neo-colonialism of Africa's weaker countries? The West and the east and the africa leader that are complicit in the theft
Arguably the worst genocide in africa was committed by the Belgians. It was fairly recent. It was very bad, but for how long can you blame a country's poverty on white people? There have been plenty of areas and peoples in this world that have suffered genocides, and lots of them are back and kickin. Yeah, more powerful players edge in and take some power when the country or people is weak as hell, but that isn't always the worst thing in the world. Do you know what kind of shyt asia has been through? The us getting dirty in the Philippines, after the spanish?? Do you know how the us has imposed itself if the Caribbean and south america? After the old european powers finished up or were kicked out? south american got done super duper dirty breh. There are still reactionary governments, probably not far off some stupid bullshyt you'd come up with judging from the fear and hate you spew, and those countries are struggling. Even the arabs do a better job of dispersing the money from the stuff they need to sell to "the cacs" amongst other peoples. Qatar, the UAE, Saudi, they build roads, hospitals, mosques, musems etc and their leaders STILL pocket billions on billions.
I met and befriended some real africans in university and honestly, I know you hate cacs more than they do. What Africa really needs is for its educated sons and daughters to defend it when contracts are being written and signed. I strongly believe this is how africa will rise up and begin feeding its people.
Makes sense.
I alluded to the wackness of the speech. Just was commenting on the facts provided.
not necessarily depend, but often aid is given with an understanding that a nation will show some appreciation in one form or another. doesn't seem so outrageous to me. you think china built the new african congres building out of the goodness of their stone cold hearts??
They get resources, breh
1. The East isn't "complicit in the theft"
2. The East benefits because they offer a fairer alternative
3. France is still in West Africa
4. Asia, Arabia, South America and Caribbeans are still recovering from colonialism
5. What the fukk is a real African?
This nikka Obama
He really is being both ******ish and cacerish at once... ignorant about the moves these nations are already making.... while he also fighting with africom to make African nations militaries pawns to US interest. Obama would rather feed 'aid' to corrupt leaders while people starve.
not necessarily depend, but often aid is given with an understanding that a nation will show some appreciation in one form or another. doesn't seem so outrageous to me. you think china built the new african congres building out of the goodness of their stone cold hearts??
Who is stealing the gold? The diamonds? The minerals? The oil? The West and the East and the african leaders that are complicit in the theft
Who profits from neo-colonialism of Africa's weaker countries? The West and the east and the africa leader that are complicit in the theft
Arguably the worst genocide in africa was committed by the Belgians. It was fairly recent. It was very bad, but for how long can you blame a country's poverty on white people? There have been plenty of areas and peoples in this world that have suffered genocides, and lots of them are back and kickin. Yeah, more powerful players edge in and take some power when the country or people is weak as hell, but that isn't always the worst thing in the world. Do you know what kind of shyt asia has been through? The us getting dirty in the Philippines, after the spanish?? Do you know how the us has imposed itself if the Caribbean and south america? After the old european powers finished up or were kicked out? south american got done super duper dirty breh. There are still reactionary governments, probably not far off some stupid bullshyt you'd come up with judging from the fear and hate you spew, and those countries are struggling. Even the arabs do a better job of dispersing the money from the stuff they need to sell to "the cacs" amongst other peoples. Qatar, the UAE, Saudi, they build roads, hospitals, mosques, musems etc and their leaders STILL pocket billions on billions.
I met and befriended some real africans in university and honestly, I know you hate cacs more than they do. What Africa really needs is for its educated sons and daughters to defend it when contracts are being written and signed. I strongly believe this is how africa will rise up and begin feeding its people.
You do know that there was direct European occupation and subservience in a number of African countries until the 70-80s, right? And that various Western powers have assassinated African leaders who would have helped inspire the people to revolt? There are so many problems, that differ from country to country that comparisons to South America, and the Middle East are pointless.
- Socialism, which is the backbone of the rest of the world's revolutions from their captors doesn't have a chance in most African countries due to the extreme methods upon which it was abused.
- You understand that before the Cacs were using Africa like a treasure chest, there were Middle Eastern powers attempting to do the same? ts been over a millenia of struggles for power.
- The entire continent was drawn up by people who had no idea what they were doing, internal problems are a massive issue.
- One word: warlords.
- You know how taxes were introduced in quite a few places? Cutting off hands. Try implementing a tax structure when that is the definition of the word.
- Rwandan Genocide was in 1994, as a direct result of Belgium's occupation.
- You can blame a country's poverty on White people as long as they are keeping the country poor. And that is happening in most of Africa.
- You can't say that because some people were able to "bounce back from genocide" that all people are. Comparisons are nearly impossible.
- Asia is a continent too. Radically different events have happened there, leaders have taken different methods, and there have been different industrialization periods.
- It has nothing to do with "dispersing money."
- What Africa really needs, is a coalition army, that is not divided by nationality, a massive educational and social revolution, a method of breaking the chains of neo-colonialism, a reduction in religious fervor, a breaking up of child slavery, industrialism that would resemble the Soviet Union's, an integration of modern farming methods, a period of mass isolationism, WMDs, and a lot of other things that aren't just going to happen at once. I have a few books you might want to read to help you understand: Wretched of the Earth, Toward the African Revolution, & the Dying Colonialism all by Franz Fanon. A Problem From Hell and Realising Human Rights both by Samantha Power. I'll make a thread to help you guys out with understanding the insurmountable task of turning a continent that has been raped, into a superpower.
Trajan
Veteran
That's the joke. Let one of these African leaders decide to nationalise a key industry (not saying that's good or bad) that the US has its eyes on....He'd get Morsi'd so fast.
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MVike28
right around the ACC
i specifically said no N word because believe it or not Napoleon has been exposed as a CAC.
As far as Obama he can fukk right off with his bullshyt. Two term president
humble forever
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You know that you could remove the word "African" from both of those sentences and replace it with various other countries and it would still ring true, right?
I'm more comparing Africa with South america- a country the usa, and prior to them various european powers, meddled in, commited genocide in, enslaved others, overthrew, assasinated legitimate leaders of the people and backed terrible governments up until fairly recently.
And to the dude that negged me with "nah" and then came with shyt like "what is a real african?" a real african is someone born and raised in africa. glad i could clear that up. you're still african enough to rep the homeland and rock that wooden africa piece if it makes you feel any better though
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I didn't even pay attention that u speaking to him.. I thought the comment was funnyi specifically said no N word because believe it or not Napoleon has been exposed as a CAC.
As far as Obama he can fukk right off with his bullshyt. Two term president