Barry Bonds out here at 52 still hitting bombs

[beenz]

The sound off the bat.



Yeah it's just the cage, but he still makes it look effortless as fukk.

roids or no roids, anyone who's played baseball at an elite level in the majors can EASILY hit fastballs from the cage.

 

[Remote]

roids or no roids, anyone who's played baseball at an elite level in the majors can EASILY hit fastballs from the cage.

Lol. I've seen fat guys in softball crush BP. Like 350 feet easy.

Hitting BP homers is cool. I don't think anyone is trying to take away from that.

I just want to point out to casual fans, BP homers is not that hard to do for a former player.

All you have to do is watch any Old Timers Day game and you'll see those dudes hitting the warning track.

 

[JAY?]

Bonds, Manny, Clemens, IRod and ARod were HOF quality players before the juice.

Palmeiro is on the fence since he was more or less a DH and who knows how much the juice helped him in his 30s.

Bagwell wasn't.
Sosa wasn't.
Giambi and McGwire were vastly improved because of it.

I would add that Schilling was on the juice. And his loud denials don't fool me one bit.

Sammy was very much a quality player before steroids
He averaged 35 and 100 for the 5 years before the juice
Unless you're implying he was always on it

 

[Bilz]

Barry wasn't the only player who retired while still productive.

He was making 15M per year as a glorified DH in 2007 when that was a lot of money for that kind of one way player.

Even if he didn't have the stink of PEDs on him, his price and the perception of him as a clubhouse cancer would have made teams avoid him.

Also, where was Barry going to go? None of the big market teams had a need for him and he wasn't going to sign in Pittsburgh for 3 million.

Barry didn't retire though . Julio Franco played until he was almost 50 and he wasn't anywhere near as productive. Barry remained a free agent for reasons that had nothing to do with baseball. I know he was potentially facing jail time but its not like he was the only one.

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

That sound music to my ears that season bout to begin next week

scratching of a chalkboard to most

 

[Remote]

Sammy was very much a quality player before steroids
He averaged 35 and 100 for the 5 years before the juice
Unless you're implying he was always on it

Sammy Sosa was on the juice long before 98

 

[Remote]

Barry didn't retire though . Julio Franco played until he was almost 50 and he wasn't anywhere near as productive. Barry remained a free agent for reasons that had nothing to do with baseball. I know he was potentially facing jail time but its not like he was the only one.

I can't think of any player under federal investigation that was still in the league.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

He wouldn't have even hit 700 without the juice.

He most certainly would have. He was reaching 600 pretty effortlessly. He was going to at least be the only 600/600 player ever (was already the only 500/500). He could have stuck around for 700.

GOAT.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

With regard to the blackballed stuff...meh. Barry played until he was 42. You don't get blackballed at 42. He was still effective, but at that age, you don't get the money you want anymore. Nor the years. And he was basically a DH. And Barry had the PED stink on him. His career ran its course.

More bullshyt. .500 OBP isn't "still effective".. It's best in the league type shyt.

 

[Scottie Drippin]

yea

dude was a lock to make the HOF. McGwire was juicing since the 80s, which is why I say eff him. But im one of those that dont like HR hitters who did nothing else.


he sketchy because the Rangers were a team of juicers in the 90s. I dont trust anything that comes out of that team.

Its hilarious how people got on Bagwell for PEDs after he magically lost 25 lbs over an offseason yet ignore that the same thing happened to Pudge.

Pudge is one of those "Good Guys" that even though every smoking gun is near him people just shrug off. Pudgo, Pinero, Julio Franco, Juan Gonzalez, all them dudes.

 

[beenz]

Bonds, Manny, Clemens, IRod and ARod were HOF quality players before the juice.

Palmeiro is on the fence since he was more or less a DH and who knows how much the juice helped him in his 30s.

Bagwell wasn't.
Sosa wasn't.
Giambi and McGwire were vastly improved because of it.

I would add that Schilling was on the juice. And his loud denials don't fool me one bit.

man, palmiero was going in regardless cuz he has 3000 hits and over 500 HR's. either category pretty much is a lock for the HOF. but them roids and him admitting as such in that trial sealed his fate.

a-rod might have HOF #'s before he turned 30. dude was good as a young buck pre-roids.

 

[beenz]

He most certainly would have. He was reaching 600 pretty effortlessly. He was going to at least be the only 600/600 player ever (was already the only 500/500). He could have stuck around for 700.

GOAT.

man barry bonds also had a HOF resume before getting heavy on the juice in the 2000's.

 

[Remote]

He most certainly would have. He was reaching 600 pretty effortlessly. He was going to at least be the only 600/600 player ever (was already the only 500/500). He could have stuck around for 700.

GOAT.

He started juicing in 1999 at the age of 34 and hit 351 more homers.

At an age where every player in history declines he does not do that without the juice. Realistically he would have finished in the high 400s or low 500s. Which still would have placed him as a top 10 player all time. But 600 let alone 800 is preposterous.

 

[Remote]

More bullshyt. .500 OBP isn't "still effective".. It's best in the league type shyt.

What you do at 42 isn't exactly reflective of what you do at 43. And less so with a federal investigation over your head.

David Ortiz had a top 5 season last year. Even if he didn't retire you don't bet on the same at 41. Let alone 43.

 

[Remote]

man, palmiero was going in regardless cuz he has 3000 hits and over 500 HR's. either category pretty much is a lock for the HOF. but them roids and him admitting as such in that trial sealed his fate.

a-rod might have HOF #'s before he turned 30. dude was good as a young buck pre-roids.

Palmeiro without the juice doesn't reach 500 or 3,000.

And considering he was largely a 1 way player, I'd argue without the juice he's a worse version of Edgar Martinez. Which is good. But it ain't HOF. Edgar is borderline as it is.