Batman 89 will go down as the bigger classic than TDK

[Sincere Noble]

I cant really believe this thread has gone on for this long. The agreement seems pretty cut clear and dry. Batman 89 is by far the more landmark film while the TDK is the better overall film. I'm shocked that some nikkaz are in here claiming that Batman Returns is the better film when compared to Batman 89, even though for me personally Batman returns is the film I watch on more occasions just because its more entertaining to me, no way is it the better film.

 

[Jazzy B.]

The batman franchise nearly fukked up the whole comic genre. Spiderman more important.

If you have to be born when the shyt came out to know it's a landmark.... then the shyt ain't a landmark. Sorry to break it to you guys.

Outside of Superman sequels and one spinoff, comic book movies weren't being adapted into films pre-Batman 89. It was only after Batman 89 when they were. The subsequent adaptations were also done similarly to how Batman 89 was done which was, dark, gritty, Gothic and violent with a shadowy hero dressed in black(The Crow, The Shadow, Darkman etc) and atmospheric worlds/cities. Batman 89 also changed how people looked at Batman and removed the campy Adam West stigma that was attached to the character. Furthermore a live action Spider-Man movie wasn't even properly considered until after Batman 89's success James Cameron(who would have directed the film) even wanted to do it the same way.

 

[StraxStrax]

I cant really believe this thread has gone on for this long. The agreement seems pretty cut clear and dry. Batman 89 is by far the more landmark film while the TDK is the better overall film. I'm shocked that some nikkaz are in here claiming that Batman Returns is the better film when compared to Batman 89, even though for me personally Batman returns is the film I watch on more occasions just because its more entertaining to me, no way is it the better film.

Batman 89 was def a landmark film but c'mon. The Dark Knight was a award winning film for ACTING just think about that for a sec, no superhero movie has done that before or since, was the 3rd movie ever to gross a billion and is being used in film schools.

People talking about the summer of Batman is also so silly. It was the summer of Batman for YOU because happened to be the right age just like 2006 will be the summer of Cars for many kids. It wasn't the summer of Cars for 18 year old me but for my 8 year old brother it sure was.

 

[Sincere Noble]

Batman 89 was def a landmark film but c'mon. The Dark Knight was a award winning film for ACTING just think about that for a sec, no superhero movie has done that before or since, was the 3rd movie ever to gross a billion and is being used in film schools.

People talking about the summer of Batman is also so silly. It was the summer of Batman for YOU because happened to be the right age just like 2006 will be the summer of Cars for many kids. It wasn't the summer of Cars for 18 year old me but for my 8 year old brother it sure was.

I feel what you saying and I think TDK is the better film overall but without the release of Batman 89 who knows where the superhero genre would be right now for a film like the TDK to exist. Think about if that movie was terrible and bombed my dude.

 

[Quarterback]

Batman 89 was def a landmark film but c'mon. The Dark Knight was a award winning film for ACTING just think about that for a sec, no superhero movie has done that before or since, was the 3rd movie ever to gross a billion and is being used in film schools.

People talking about the summer of Batman is also so silly. It was the summer of Batman for YOU because happened to be the right age just like 2006 will be the summer of Cars for many kids. It wasn't the summer of Cars for 18 year old me but for my 8 year old brother it sure was.

89 was the summer of Batman for all ages, not just kids. Teens fukked with it, 20somethings fukked with it, 30somethings on a less stannish level, but it was still something people had to see. Higher than 30s took their kids. Batman was all encompassing, only Star Wars movies can fukk with B89's blanketing of pop culture.

@Master Teacher , you are not a writer. Writing on a message board does not make you a writer. Stop lying, we weren't born yesterday. I respect your hatred for TDK, but c'mon, you're acting like the TLR losers who claim they have 6 certs, make 6 figures, and date 6 dimes.

 

[StraxStrax]

89 was the summer of Batman for all ages, not just kids. Teens fukked with it, 20somethings fukked with it, 30somethings on a less stannish level, but it was still something people had to see. Higher than 30s took their kids. Batman was all encompassing, only Star Wars movies can fukk with B89's blanketing of pop culture.

You say that but Batman 89 didn't even do half the business that The Dark Knight did and if we adjust for ticket price inflation it's still 300 millz behind TDK. Also the claim it was the first good Superhero movie is bullshyt, the first Superman reviewed well and made more money then Batman 89 worldwide. The only thing Batman 89 can take credit for is introducing the mainstream to a Batman that's not campy, and that's big but its not bigger then a billion dollar award winning movie with an Oscar winning performance from an actor that was laughed at for trying to fill Jack shoes. People were like "so this gay cowboy is gonna be The Joker "

 

[Quarterback]

I ain't saying it's the 1st good superhero movie, I hate B89, while I have Superman memorised from start to finish. I was just responding to the contention that 1989 was the summer of Batman just for kids, it was not, it was big for everybody. In no way comparable to Cars in 2006. I felt everyone were sheep, but that doesn't change the fact that it blanketed pop culture that summer. Almost everyone fukked with it. Carson, Letterman, baseball broadcasts, Mtv, radio stations, MackDonald's, cacs, noncacs. People of all ages had Batman shirts, glasses, towels, prolly even batcondoms.

2008 was the summer of Obama. Katy Perry was all over, and 3rd was TDK. This is all from a pop culture perspective, not a movie quality perspective. I refuse to watch Nolan's Batman after seeing a few minutes of Bat Begins, it looked like utter shyt to me.

 

[StraxStrax]

I ain't saying it's the 1st good superhero movie, I hate B89, while I have Superman memorised from start to finish. I was just responding to the contention that 1989 was the summer of Batman just for kids, it was not, it was big for everybody. In no way comparable to Cars in 2006. I felt everyone were sheep, but that doesn't change the fact that it blanketed pop culture that summer. Almost everyone fukked with it. Carson, Letterman, baseball broadcasts, Mtv, radio stations, MackDonald's, cacs, noncacs. People of all ages had Batman shirts, glasses, towels, prolly even batcondoms.

2008 was the summer of Obama. Katy Perry was all over, and 3rd was TDK. This is all from a pop culture perspective, not a movie quality perspective. I refuse to watch Nolan's Batman after seeing a few minutes of Bat Begins, it looked like utter shyt to me.

You are comparing the pop culture perspective without talking about the internet. TDK had all that you talk about plus the death of Heath Ledger and the Internet, shyt was bananas. I'll agree with Obama being bigger in 2008 but there is nothing that says the #2-3 in a certain year can't be bigger then the biggest stuff in another year. I'd also argue that the Fall of the Berlin Wall is a much better remembered pop culture thing then Batman 89, at least in Europe.

 

[rantanamo]

Have to agree with the OP. Batman 89 was a pop culture phenomena. Batman simply wasn't looked at as that big of a super hero before that movie. The movie not only put Batman back in the spotlight and made Gotham a mythical dark place to the mainstream, but also marked a new era of Superhero popularity. The 80s just weren't big on comic superheroes for the mainstream. Even for kids, comic type heroes just weren't all that big after The Superfriends went off the air in 85. The Batman movie brought on a huge toy franchise, seemed to revive Marvel in the mainstream and set off a successful 90s for DC. The Dark Knight was a better movie, but it didn't have that same type of influence or imagination to pop culture. It was a good movie that made a lot of money whereas Batman 89 was about as close to we have seen to another Star Wars type phenomena.

 

[The Order 1886]

When you look up the definition of the word "Classic" and apply it to this thread OP is wrong because in terms of "quality" TDK far exceeds batman 89'

maybe "classic" is the wrong term to use

this is a battle that Nostalgia just doesn't win, im sorry

 

[MartyMcFly]

You say that but Batman 89 didn't even do half the business that The Dark Knight did and if we adjust for ticket price inflation it's still 300 millz behind TDK. Also the claim it was the first good Superhero movie is bullshyt, the first Superman reviewed well and made more money then Batman 89 worldwide. The only thing Batman 89 can take credit for is introducing the mainstream to a Batman that's not campy, and that's big but its not bigger then a billion dollar award winning movie with an Oscar winning performance from an actor that was laughed at for trying to fill Jack shoes. People were like "so this gay cowboy is gonna be The Joker "

Also changed the way movies were marketed breh. It practically introduced the modern campaign to how movies are done now, minus the internet of course. It made that bat symbol extremely popular to the point where cats were getting their barbers to cut it in their heads.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

like i said earlier in this thread, since batman was released in 1989, i'm not sure if you can name many more movies that you are confident EVERYONE has seen.

what other movies since that time are really on that level? titanic? lion king?

if someone were to tell you they haven't seen batman you would think they live in a fukkin cave. it was just one of those event films that galvanized the entire move going culture.

 

[MartyMcFly]

like i said earlier in this thread, since batman was released in 1989, i'm not sure if you can name many more movies that you are confident EVERYONE has seen.

what other movies since that time are really on that level? titanic? lion king?

if someone were to tell you they haven't seen batman you would think they live in a fukkin cave. it was just one of those event films that galvanized the entire move going culture.

Or I'd think they were born in the 90s and don't care. My ex never saw it, never had any desire to. I sat her down to watch it once and she wasn't into it so we turned it off and watched Die Hard, which she was much more into:whoknows:

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

People talking about the summer of Batman is also so silly. It was the summer of Batman for YOU because happened to be the right age just like 2006 will be the summer of Cars for many kids. It wasn't the summer of Cars for 18 year old me but for my 8 year old brother it sure was.

U comparing cars to batman. U obviously just came out your mommas puss to not remember the hype around batman. I had older siblings and cousins all hyped for the flick. We all went to see it. It was a dark movie for its time, even dumb ass uncle ruckus thought it was rated R. U don't know what u r talking about bro.

 

[Chris Cool]

There were plenty of comic movies before batman. Batman and Robin killed damn near killed the genre. Spiderman got us to where we are today.


Katy Perry and obama was more popular than the dark knight? Yaw nikkas was listening to Really? Yaw nikkas aas listening to katy perry. It was the second highest grossing movie of all time. Like wtf are yaw nikkas talking about. This shyt ain't flop. Everybody saw that shyt and you got clowned if you didn't.