Bayer Buys Monsanto: It's Over folks...

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When this merger goes through, there will only be three major companies who control most of the industry. And the merger itself will make Bayer the worlds biggest supplier of agricultural seed and crop spray. Is this what the Free Market is supposed to look like?

Good post. Yup. Monopolies are the purest form of the "free market", well perhaps after pay for play.
 

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When this merger goes through, there will only be three major companies who control most of the industry. And the merger itself will make Bayer the worlds biggest supplier of agricultural seed and crop spray. Is this what the Free Market is supposed to look like?


Stop believing in that free market shyt. :skip:
 

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Monsanto is a devil with close ties to the FDA and the government. They also happen to be an unscrupulous corporation who's trying to monopolize the world's food population. Does that sound like a good idea to you?

Act like an ostrich with it's head in the sand if you want... but there's no way this will end well.

Think about your freakin' kids man :beli:

Then why didn't Monsanto buy Bayer?
 

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gmos have been by and large been proven safe by studies and it gets obscured by bullshyt like this.
sugar companies have been exposed in influencing dietary studies for decades and oil makes war crimes acceptable.. Money talks, and bayer/Monsanto are by definition 'big money'. Exercise some critical thinking for once in your dull life. Then again your mental limitations present them selves clearly in your posting style, so with all due respect (none) fukk your opinion.
 

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When this merger goes through, there will only be three major companies who control most of the industry. And the merger itself will make Bayer the worlds biggest supplier of agricultural seed and crop spray. Is this what the Free Market is supposed to look like?
:comeon: No this is what crony capitalism looks like....You seemed to have skipped the chapters on monopolies and the state in your shallow understanding of the issue. No monopoly has EVER existed without a government helping to either subsidize it,crush the competition or limit the choices for the customers (or combination of those factors)

Monsanto is an example of a monopoly that cannot exist without the states help..they lobbied for patent laws to be changed so they could patent seeds,they used the courts to create laws that forced farmers to keep buying from them rather than save their own seeds,they tie up competitors in frivolous lawsuits and regulatory battles to drain their pockets,They also lobbied the govt to keep out imported seed..

Monsanto itself should have been sued into dust many times over since the 1930s but the state "regulators" keep running interference.
ask yourself why is monsanto still around after
DDT
Agent Orange
Dioxins
PCBs
Aspartame
 
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How is this crony capitalism?
:dahell:

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism.

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Seems to be a ven diagram of the revolving door?


It's adorable that the RHINO is arguing for larger government.

:laff:

Its adorable the Hillary staffer is accusing me of not only being a RHINO(sp) (i assume you mean RINO) but also putting words in my mouth...what basis do you have
for any of those assumptions?
:youngsabo: lets see those receipts
 
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Bayer Mulls Dropping Monsanto Name as Brand Headache Cure

September 20, 2016 — 1:30 AM EDTUpdated on September 20, 2016 — 7:24 AM EDT




Bayer, Monsanto CEOs on $66 Billion Merger
  • Executives aiming to build on consumer trust in Europe
  • The companies can “get beyond this image and reputation thing”

With Bayer AG’s proposed $66 billion purchase of Monsanto Co., the company that invented Aspirin is poised to take on one of the world’s biggest corporate headaches. A potential cure: dropping the Monsanto name.

The German drug and chemical conglomerate is considering that move to avoid sullying its reputation, according to people familiar with internal discussions at Bayer who asked not to be named because the talks are private. No decision has been made, and Bayer’s managers will have some time to think: thanks to antitrust reviews in some 30 jurisdictions worldwide, the purchase isn’t likely to be completed before late 2017.

Even if the deal goes through as proposed, merging the two companies into the world’s top maker of seeds and crop chemicals will be a challenge. Bayer will need to integrate a company known for making the herbicide Agent Orange for use in the Vietnam War and tangling with environmental groups over genetically-modified crops.


One possibility would be to market Monsanto products such as seed corn and Roundup herbicide under the Bayer CropScience name, said Joachim Kregel, who represents independent investors at the German shareholder association SdK. Though Bayer has also faced criticism from environmentalists, it’s perhaps best known as the company that brought Aspirin to market, in 1899. In May, it topped a ranking of the world’s most reputable pharmaceutical brands from the Reputation Institute, a marketing consultancy.

“If anyone can do it, it’s Bayer,” Kregel said.

In an interview with Bloomberg TV last week, Monsanto Chief Executive Officer Hugh Grant signaled he’s open to a change.

Reputation Thing
“I’ve been very flexible,” Grant said after the deal was announced on Sept. 14. “The key is less about the name and more about the products developed.”


At a question-and-answer session with Grant, Bayer Chief Executive Officer Werner Baumann said there’s an opportunity for the companies to jointly “get beyond this image and reputation thing” by building on the trust Bayer enjoys in Europe.




Environmentalists have campaigned against the deal since talks were first disclosed in May, with celebrities such as Mark Ruffalo and Bianca Jagger tweeting in opposition. Opponents have argued that combining the companies will drive up prices for farmers and increase the spread of genetically-modified seeds. Bayer and Monsanto counter that combining will leave them better able to research new products to help farmers produce more food. U.S. regulators say food from genetically engineered plants is as safe as that from non-genetically engineered sources. The European Union also has approved GMO products for sale.


The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee will take a first look at the Bayer-Monsanto deal on Tuesday in a hearing on mergers in the agriculture industry. The proposed purchase comes after a pending deal between Dow Chemical Co. and DuPont Co. and China National Chemical Corp.’s planned takeover of Syngenta AG.

Also on Tuesday, Bayer told analysts and investors that it plans to boost the return on sales in the agriculture business to 30 percent in the third year after the deal is closed, from 27 percent in 2015. On Wednesday, Germany’s Green Party plans to raise antitrust and reputation concerns over the Bayer-Monsanto deal at a session of parliament in Berlin.

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Bayer is no stranger to controversy. In 2011, the company paid $750 million to settle lawsuits that claimed a strain of its genetically-modified rice had tainted other crops; Bayer said that it had acted responsibly in handling the biotech rice, but wanted to resolve the litigation so it could move forward. Environmentalists have called on it to stop selling any GM seeds.

In 2013, Greenpeace activists climbed to the roof of the Cologne convention center -- where Bayer was holding its annual shareholder meeting -- to hang a banner accusing the company of killing bees with its pesticides. Bayer says bee-colony losses can be attributed to a range of factors, including agriculture and crop management.

Further back in its corporate history, the company was part of I.G. Farbenindustrie AG, a Nazi-era conglomerate that used slave labor and made Zyklon B, the gas used to kill millions at Hitler’s death camps. In 1995, a top Bayer executive apologized for I.G. Farben’s role in the Holocaust.

The Monsanto deal will give Bayer the opportunity to redeem a tarnished brand and highlight the benefits of the company’s products, said Marc Tuengler, chief of DSW, a German association that advises small investors on proxy votes.

“With the right signals, the right decisions, Bayer can show what will be changed,” Tuengler said. “Monsanto has a better chance of improving its reputation under Bayer’s roof.”

Bayer Mulls Dropping Monsanto Name as Brand Headache Cure

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Monsanto is a devil with close ties to the FDA and the government. They also happen to be an unscrupulous corporation who's trying to monopolize the world's food population. Does that sound like a good idea to you?

Act like an ostrich with it's head in the sand if you want... but there's no way this will end well.

Think about your freakin' kids man :beli:

Edit: And we all know Bayer's reputation :beli:

This is the narrative im talking about. This is all conjecture you hear on the Internet and spew it as fact elsewhere. What large corporation doesnt have ties to the government and not lobby them?



i wasnt even trying to defend monsanto in the post you quoted, in fact i criticized them.
 

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This is the narrative im talking about. This is all conjecture you hear on the Internet and spew it as fact elsewhere. What large corporation doesnt have ties to the government and not lobby them?



i wasnt even trying to defend monsanto in the post you quoted, in fact i criticized them.

What did I say that's conjecture? If you research the history of Monsanto you'll see they're exactly who I said they were, Bayer too.
 

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This is the narrative im talking about. This is all conjecture you hear on the Internet and spew it as fact elsewhere. What large corporation doesnt have ties to the government and not lobby them?



i wasnt even trying to defend monsanto in the post you quoted, in fact i criticized them.
Quoi?
 
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