Be careful they are going to try to play is with this reparations talk

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What group are you referring to?

And that would be stupid of us to take. Give us money so we can put it right back into the system in the form of taxes, debt, health care, interest etc. A permanent reduction in living cost is fare more beneficial that giving us cash that most will eventually spend away. And once the money is gone then what?

Raparations should about bettering the community as a whole not just lining pockets.
1988: Civil Liberties Act of 1988: President Ronald Reagan signed a bill providing $1.2 billion ($20,000 a person) and an apology to each of the approximately 60,000 living Japanese-Americans who had been interned during World War11. And, $12,000 and an apology were given to 450 Unangans (Aleuts) for internment during WW 11. Plus, a $6.4 million trust fund was created for their communities

Hell, our govt has given Jews money for the holocaust :skip:. Black people should be able to use those funds however they would like just like any other group has done before them. Im in full support of building the community but don't treat us like children.
 

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Here's an article that talks numbers needed to address the wealth gap, and also dispels the myth about how unfeasible this is for the non-believers:

Slavery reparations are workable and affordable

Slavery reparations are workable and affordable
Matthew Yglesias
Ta-Nehisi Coates' essay on "The Case for Reparations" is much more a call for a moral reckoning with the legacy of white supremacy in America than it is a detailed accounting of what a reparations policy would look like. The more wonkishly inclined might prefer a specific proposal, so here's a place to start: we could close the wealth gap between black households and white households by directing the Federal Reserve to print $55 billion a month for 25 months and divide the proceeds evenly among every African-American.

The black-white wealth gap
Attempting to reckon with vast historical crimes played out over multiple centuries is hard. It's better to start at the end — with a desirable outcome. What would it take to close the gap in wealth between black and white households?

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Unfortunately for the cause of precision, in the United States wealth is measured at the household level while race is a property of individuals. But roughly speaking, the average American household has 2.55 people so closing the $85,000 household wealth gap would require a transfer of approximately $33,300 to each African American individual. There are about 41.4 million black people in America, so we're talking about approximately $1.38 trillion.

Isn't that an awful lot of money?
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It is. But it's a tiny fraction of what was actually stolen.

In his book Capital in the 21st Century, Thomas Piketty shows that in the decade before the civil war, the total value of black people held in bondage was about 100% of national income. Indeed, with the application of considerations related to compound interest it is possible to derive figures into the quadrillionsas the appropriate recompense. And that's just slavery. As Coates shows, the economic damage of white supremacy continued unabated well into the second half of the twentieth century.

By contrast, national income in 2013 was $16.8 trillion so the idea of transferring $1.38 trillion to black Americans to close the racial wealth gap is far from crazy relative to the magnitude of the crime.

The appropriate payor is the United States government

Who would pay the $1.38 trillion?
It is obviously not practical to collect $1.38 trillion from individual white households. But more broadly, the issue is not individual acts of wrongdoing but a collective American legacy. The appropriate payor is the United States government which, conveniently, has the ability to print United States dollars in unlimited quantities.

The Federal Reserve Act would not, as written, allow the Fed to print $1.38 trillion and transfer it to individual African-Americans. But a reparations initiative could direct them to do so.

Wouldn't that destroy the economy?
Probably not. Right now the Federal Reserve is engaging in $45 billion per month of quantitative easing, printing money and using the proceeds to buy US government debt and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bonds. Before May, they were doing $55 billion per month.

At the $55 billion per month pace, it would take 25 months — just over two years — to transfer the full $1.38 trillion to black America. Any potentially inflationary impact of the money-printing could be offset by halting quantitative easing immediately. If that's not enough to fully offset the impact, that would actually be good news since as Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank President Narayan Kockerlakota observed earlier this week the Fed is currently generating less inflation and less job growth than it says it wants. If at some point during the two year span inflation did become undesirably high, the Fed could offset that by increasing the interest rate it pays on excess bank reserves or through conventional monetary means.

Could you really rectify centuries of racial injustice this easily?
Sadly, no. Even if the racial gap in median wealth were eliminated, it would still be the case that there's a substantial racial gap in median income. Lurking behind that gap is a gap in educational attainment. Unless those were rectified, the racial wealth gap would reemerge over time.

Beyond that, equalizing financial wealth would hardly level the overall playing field. Formally discriminatory public policies are a thing of the past, and public discourse is increasingly intolerant of blatant displays of racism but many studies show African-Americans are disadvantaged by widespread (and often unconscious) biases in a range of contexts.

Monetary reparations are generally viewed as an extreme idea, but the reality is that financial leveling is one of the aspects of racial inequality that it would easiest to fix if the country wanted to.

$30K to each BP :comeon:and some BP really rather have cash over social programs? You'd could save that a year with a home on tax free land, no income tax, subsidized food programs and free health care.
 

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Holocaust survivors got money, not random Jews

and a lot of holocaust survivors still and have been living in poverty since

Holocaust Remembrance Day: A third of survivors in the US are poor - CNN

Tens of thousands of Israeli Holocaust survivors are living in abject poverty

How the State of Israel Abuses Holocaust Survivors


1988: Civil Liberties Act of 1988: President Ronald Reagan signed a bill providing $1.2 billion ($20,000 a person) and an apology to each of the approximately 60,000 living Japanese-Americans who had been interned during World War11. And, $12,000 and an apology were given to 450 Unangans (Aleuts) for internment during WW 11. Plus, a $6.4 million trust fund was created for their communities

Hell, our govt has given Jews money for the holocaust :skip:. Black people should be able to use those funds however they would like just like any other group has done before them. Im in full support of building the community but don't treat us like children.
 

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1988: Civil Liberties Act of 1988: President Ronald Reagan signed a bill providing $1.2 billion ($20,000 a person) and an apology to each of the approximately 60,000 living Japanese-Americans who had been interned during World War11. And, $12,000 and an apology were given to 450 Unangans (Aleuts) for internment during WW 11. Plus, a $6.4 million trust fund was created for their communities

Hell, our govt has given Jews money for the holocaust :skip:. Black people should be able to use those funds however they would like just like any other group has done before them. Im in full support of building the community but don't treat us like children.

Jews got social programs and land also which is why they are highly successful.

And what about the future generations. I guess if you aren't born yet you don't deserve reparations.

Raraparations should be about bettering our community not throwing money at a people but leaving the same fukked up social climate the same.
 

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They said the same thing about a Black president :manny:
True but it took Bush was leaving office with a 22% approval rating, the worse economy since the 1930's Great Depression, housing crisis, stock market crash, people losing their life savings, invading wrong countries and unpopular wars for a country to elect a black President. Without those things happening, Obama's hope message doesn't carry as much weight and McCain possibly becomes President.
 

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We talked about this in the other tread. Most of the money should go to social welfare programs in the community: no taxes, free education, free food programs, free education, land, small businesses loans, mental health and substance abuse programs, adoption programs etc.

I honestly don't think they should give out a dime in cash until those programs are set up and functioning.

I also think you should have to DNA test at least 50% black & be able to track your ancestry to slavery to keep these cacs and other races out of our pot by popping out babies with BP.
Should not be any loans. And what kind of slavery? Because in the other thread you got folks playing stupid talm bout does that include Afro Latinos and shyt. Gotta be hella specific.
 

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We’d have to be careful with this since our dna could be used for nefarious purposes (entered into a federal crime database or for research/experiments without our approval).

As far as numbers, according to research we’ll need 50 billion a year for a number of years to close the wealth gap. Will post the research when I get back home.

Man if y'all dont stop with the alex Jones bs.

If your phone is made after 2014 they already got your finger print

& if a Gov agency REALLY wanted your DNA all they'd have to do is follow you until you eat somewhere and confiscate your eating utensils or wait till you get a hair or cut something
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We already in too deep breh, embrace it.
 

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Should not be any loans. And what kind of slavery? Because in the other thread you got folks playing stupid talm bout does that include Afro Latinos and shyt. Gotta be hella specific.

Why would the US being paying raparations to slaves from other countries? Obviously it would be from the slavery that directly benefited and took place within the US.
 

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True but it took Bush was leaving office with a 22% approval rating, the worse economy since the 1930's Great Depression, housing crisis, stock market crash, people losing their life savings, invading wrong countries and unpopular wars for a country to elect a black President. Without those things happening, Obama's hope message doesn't carry as much weight and McCain possibly becomes President.
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