Be reality, Cole is presently a better rapper AND producer than Kanye

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j cole is not on kanye's level production, but lyrically he can be better, overall i don't know, don't agree with thread title
 

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J. Cole is basically Kanye without the charm. Both of them are guilty of having corny lines, but Ye can get away with that shyt due to his charisma, while Cole just come off as soulless half the time.
 
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J Cole could probably do with Mike Deans help behind the boards. His production is bland as fukk right now.
 

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Neither Kanye's production nor his rapping puts me to sleep, which means J Colorazepam loses by default.
 

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Being a better rapper than Kanye isn't a big accomplishment...Tons of rappers can truthfully claim this...

I don't know about him being a better producer though...That's not really my expertise.. I'm not even sure which tracks Kanye is actually producing in 2013 and I'm not too familar with Cole's work on the boards...
 

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No way in hell is Cole's production even remotely close to Kanye's. I honestly feel Cole's production is the only thing holding him back at this point
 

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Metephors dont make you a good rapper...

Bra, that dude is a weirdo, who is in every Cole thread. Rambling on about how he does not like Cole.

Dude is not dealing with a full deck upstairs. Best to ignore that dude.
 

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Don't really see how someone could objectively say otherwise. It's a given that Cole is a better MC than Ye, but the progress he's made as a producer is really impressive.

Born Sinner is full of :dj2: shyt


Meanwhile, the last classic beat Kanye made without the help of Mike Dean, No ID, etc is probably the Be Intro.

I'm a fan of both, but the way Ye gets stanned on here while Cole gets slandered just doesn't add up.

j.cole has potential

but kanye west got his discography.
 

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Kanye’s production fell the fukk off when he started aiming for that "stadium” sound around Graduation. All his shyt since has been overproduced. He's trying to do too much.

And Ye is an average rapper, you dudes are delusional. He doesn't even write all his own rhymes and y'all swear he's Rakim on the mic smh. If Ye was flowin like Cole did on Villuminati, you stans would be saying its the best shyt ever
Paid and Full and Follow the Leader vs Late Registration and MBDTF

Anybody choosing the former as more entertaining is

A) A liar
B) A boring ass nikkas
C) Elitist
D) A bad trifecta

Respect to the God MC but eff them dusty as raps. That was 25 years ago.
 
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