Before Michael and the Jacksons there was Little Dion

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He needed a Berry Gordy to properly package him and present him to the world.

Berry was very weird about bringing kids aboard unless they were Little Stevie Wonder level talent. Stevie was like 11 when he got signed and they had to make all kinds of arrangements for him + get him a tutor. But aside from that, he was a worker.

When the Jackson 5 pulled up their act was a little more polished and a couple of the brothers were "older," but they had hits out the gate so you can't argue with success even if it was from a kiddy group. In the very least it meant Berry could get like 10 years of work out of them and put them around the best producers/writers in black music.
 

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Berry was very weird about bringing kids aboard unless they were Little Stevie Wonder level talent. Stevie was like 11 when he got signed and they had to make all kinds of arrangements for him + get him a tutor. But aside from that, he was a worker.

When the Jackson 5 pulled up their act was a little more polished and a couple of the brothers were "older," but they had hits out the gate so you can't argue with success even if it was from a kiddy group. In the very least it meant Berry could get like 10 years of work out of them and put them around the best producers/writers in black music.
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Berry was very weird about bringing kids aboard unless they were Little Stevie Wonder level talent. Stevie was like 11 when he got signed and they had to make all kinds of arrangements for him + get him a tutor. But aside from that, he was a worker.

When the Jackson 5 pulled up their act was a little more polished and a couple of the brothers were "older," but they had hits out the gate so you can't argue with success even if it was from a kiddy group. In the very least it meant Berry could get like 10 years of work out of them and put them around the best producers/writers in black music.
Yeah I remember reading about that. My point was that even though Little Dion had world class talent he still needed a label head like Berry behind him in order to be a success in pop music. Maybe he could have went to Stax or probably Holland-Dozier-Holland's label hot wax seeing as they had a girl group with a sound similar to the Supremes that they made work The Homey Cone.
 

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Lil man got the James Brown and Jackie Wilson shyt down perfectly along with his own Little Tykes version of the JBs

Vocally, he's just not on young Michael's level but he got stage presence and was working that dry ass crowd.

Could only imagine how many kids were trying to get on back then and never went anywhere because they had no real songs, wack management or the kids simply grew up and out of trying to "make it"

Seemed like back then you needed a Joseph Jackson type figurehead to keep shyt in line and make sure the act was getting booked/paid + staying out of trouble and avoiding some Frankie Lymon fukkery.

But in the very least this kid shouldve been a session singer and doing lil nightclub gigs until his number was called
I thought the other day..

Mike and the rest of the guys had to be pure professionals all before they were 18 . On top of their game..etiquette, discipline..all that shyt.

They didn't really get a few years to sit around and fukk up like most regular folk. Especially the younger ones Mike , Marlon,Randy..they got like 7-8 years of kiddie time then the rest of they life was doing Serious ,Adult GOD'S KINGDOM BUSINESS type shyt :wow:
 

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Berry was very weird about bringing kids aboard unless they were Little Stevie Wonder level talent. Stevie was like 11 when he got signed and they had to make all kinds of arrangements for him + get him a tutor. But aside from that, he was a worker.

When the Jackson 5 pulled up their act was a little more polished and a couple of the brothers were "older," but they had hits out the gate so you can't argue with success even if it was from a kiddy group. In the very least it meant Berry could get like 10 years of work out of them and put them around the best producers/writers in black music.


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Berry was very weird about bringing kids aboard unless they were Little Stevie Wonder level talent. Stevie was like 11 when he got signed and they had to make all kinds of arrangements for him + get him a tutor. But aside from that, he was a worker.

When the Jackson 5 pulled up their act was a little more polished and a couple of the brothers were "older," but they had hits out the gate so you can't argue with success even if it was from a kiddy group. In the very least it meant Berry could get like 10 years of work out of them and put them around the best producers/writers in black music.

He was much more hands on with the Jacksons than he was other than the first year or two of Motown. His older stars like Marvin, Stevie, The Supremes, Tempts were rebelling and asking for money and creative control. He had a clean slate with the Jacksons, they werent even allowed to sing their own written shyt until they went to CBS in 75
 

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Luck and opportunity play a huge part in success. The Beatles may never have made it if they weren’t discovered in Germany at the right time. The Jackson 5 could’ve been passed on by Motown if their audition tape never made it. What if Eddie Murphy never passed the SNL auditions? That’s just how life is.
 

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Luck and opportunity play a huge part in success. The Beatles may never have made it if they weren’t discovered in Germany at the right time. The Jackson 5 could’ve been passed on by Motown if their audition tape never made it. That’s just how life is.
J5 built their rep by slaying mfs on stage.
They used to compete against adults and the story goes they won every contest they entered.
It go to the point where other groups tried to get them disqualified because they didn't believe Mike was a child.
Somebody more than likely was gonna put them on.
Motown had two of their artists telling them to fukk with J5.
Gladys Knight and Bobby Taylor went back to Motown at different times saying "yall gotta see this group".
 

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J5 built their rep by slaying mfs on stage.
They used to compete against adults and the story goes they won every contest they entered.
It go to the point where other groups tried to get them disqualified because they didn't believe Mike was a child.
Somebody more than likely was gonna put them on.
Motown had two of their artists telling them to fukk with J5.
Gladys Knight and Bobby Taylor went back to Motown at different times saying "yall gotta see this group".
That’s my point. Not saying Michael isn’t the GOAT but I bet there were many who were close to his talent back then that didn’t get a break.

There are 100s of Ushers, Mariah Careys, Whitney Houstons that are still singing in dive bars because the record labels didn’t take a chance on them or they didn’t know how to market them.

Imagine if Motown messed around before signing them and they ended up at a different label? They wouldn’t have had those same songs or impact, possibly a one hit wonder, and Michael wouldn’t have become the mega star he became.

Like I said, little things like signing for the right label can change the course of one’s career drastically regardless of their talent. I’ve seen it happen too many times.
 
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