Benny the Butcher not happy with how nerds have taken control of the culture

[Buckeye Fever]

9/11/2007 is when gangster rap died mainstream in hip-hop.

I think I might play Graduation today

 

[Plankton]

those people were still "the streets"

Benny was talking about when the streets controlled the game and you bring up an underground artist of his time. Tragedy was not controlling the game in the early 90's.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Benny was talking about when the streets controlled the game and you bring up an underground artist of his time. Tragedy was not controlling the game in the early 90's.

the point of posting that was to show that the so-called "streets" and the so-called "conscious rappers" were from the same place/element. The people you look at as "conscious rappers" were not some nerdy people from outside the culture that Benny is hinting at

 

[Justin Nitsuj]

I hope he’s referring to the white nerds, because they the ones controlling the shyt and they are only casual hip hop fans

 

[DonB90]

He's right. You'll never hear raw straight from the corner masculine energy in hip hop like this again

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

Look at his sideburns and try to take him seriously

 

[Plankton]

the point of posting that was to show that the so-called "streets" and the so-called "conscious rappers" were from the same same place/element. The people you look at as "conscious rappers" were not some nerdy people from outside the culture that Benny is hinting at

That's not what Benny was talking about though. That's you talking about something different. Benny was talking about when the streets had a hold on the game. Tragedy's music when he was the Intelligent Hoodlum reflected the conscious era of that time not the street element that would take hold by the mid 90'. Tragedy's music didn't even reflect what Benny is talking about till CNN came out with War Report. Tragedy literally switched it up because the game had moved from conscious to street by the time CNN came out. Benny is talking about that era when War Report was popping not the Intelligent Hoodlum era.

 

[spliz]

Stop it.

Benny literally said that there were cons to when the streets had a hold om the culture. He's obviously talking about when Gangster Rap really took off in 93 all thru 50 Cents reign. The conscious era of 88 - 92 did not have a street element at the forefront. You did not think of "the streets" when Kid N Play Fresh Prince and MC Hammer were running things.

Yet all them nikkas was in the streets and/or had ties to the streets. None of them were nerds. Maybe Kid would be the closest thing but he wasn't a nerd. What I'm saying is the streets was involved regardless if it was positive or not.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Stop it.

Benny literally said that there were cons to when the streets had a hold om the culture. He's obviously talking about when Gangster Rap really took off in 93 all thru 50 Cents reign. The conscious era of 88 - 92 did not have a street element at the forefront. You did not think of "the streets" when Kid N Play Fresh Prince and MC Hammer were running things.

NWA, Ghetto Boys was still making music in that era.

EMPD wasn't conscious rap. Neither was De La Soul or ATCQ.

Neither was Black Sheep. Or the Juice Crew.



The era's are different. What do you consider street? Drug Rap? The Clipse are still relevant. As for New York, that's something different.

 

[FlimFlam]

yea....theres this mythical blending of "hood nikka" and street nikka into one and the same ... that aint never been the case

 

[FlimFlam]

its safer for benny to say "nerds" instead of white people lol

 

[Zero]

That moment when he realizes that's who his fanbase is

This is a very hard pill to swallow for most rappers

 

[DonRe]

Is he blind ? Does he bot see the crowds at his shows. Especially over seas?

You better embrace them goofy white nerds with cargo shorts and thong sandals.

They are the ones buying your shyt and and paying for tickets

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

That moment when he realizes that's who his fanbase is

Lol this, who does he think is buying these 100$+ vinyl editions of their albums. Streets don't care about obi strips and blood spattered cassettes.

 

[Plankton]

Yet all them nikkas was in the streets and/or had ties to the streets. None of them were nerds. Maybe Kid would be the closest thing but he wasn't a nerd. What I'm saying is the streets was involved regardless if it was positive or not.

NWA, Ghetto Boys was still making music in that era.

EMPD wasn't conscious rap. Neither was De La Soul or ATCQ.

Neither was Black Sheep. Or the Juice Crew.



The era's are different. What do you consider street? Drug Rap? The Clipse are still relevant. As for New York, that's something different.

Did y'all even listen to the clip posted in the OP? When referencing "nerds" he was talking about how the Twitter voices are a thing now when dictating the culture in comparison to when the performance of the artist in the streets determined who had real merit. He's refereing to the DJ Akademiks types.


But Bennys argument has holes. Dave Mays (The Source) wasn't street and neither was Elliot Wilson (XXL) and they were the nerds dictating the culture back in the day. Plus Benny has overlooked the fact that drill rap has been a thing since 2012 and gang affiliated music has been prevalent since. There has been a voice in support of drill rap for a while now because it had a long life and trap music had a life before that and still does. Plus the biggest consumers of Hip Hop music has always been white people who mostly aren't from the streets like that.